ASUS PCI card and Linksys Router - incompatable???

My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2 computers, 1
is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless ASUS
PCI
card WL-138G V2 (also very new).

There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that could
interfere.

I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any internet
page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec., whereas
the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.

She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI card
by ASUS with same results.

Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with 1 GB
of RAM.

Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but never
says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine (MSN.COM)
and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.

What can possibly be the problem?

Hi
Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall low
and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it does
not do well it is probably Hardware problem
As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
BTW. New is Not always better
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2 computers,
> 1
> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless ASUS
> PCI
> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>
> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
> could
> interfere.
>
> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any internet
> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec., whereas
> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>
> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI card
> by ASUS with same results.
>
> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with 1
> GB
> of RAM.
>
> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but never
> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine (MSN.COM)
> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>
> What can possibly be the problem?
>
>

Thanks, I have forwarded your suggestion to my daughter.



"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall
> low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it
> does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
> BTW. New is Not always better
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2 computers,
>> 1
>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless ASUS
>> PCI
>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>
>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>> could
>> interfere.
>>
>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>> internet
>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>> whereas
>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>
>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>> card
>> by ASUS with same results.
>>
>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with 1
>> GB
>> of RAM.
>>
>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but never
>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>> (MSN.COM)
>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>
>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>
>>
>

I forgot to mention:

Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is obviously
inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is how ALL cards
are inside a desktop.

It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to the
one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help her, when
I am there again.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall
> low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it
> does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
> BTW. New is Not always better
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2 computers,
>> 1
>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless ASUS
>> PCI
>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>
>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>> could
>> interfere.
>>
>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>> internet
>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>> whereas
>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>
>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>> card
>> by ASUS with same results.
>>
>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with 1
>> GB
>> of RAM.
>>
>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but never
>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>> (MSN.COM)
>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>
>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>
>>
>

Ritter, your PCI card has to have some kind of antenna on it. Normally the
antenna is attached to the card but sticks out the rear of the computer to
the outside world. Another type of wireless PCI card has a remote antenna
that you can place on top of the computer case and is connected to the card
with a cable. If your wireless card is not one of the two types that I
described, then the antenna must be integral with the PCI card itself and
therefore located inside of the computer. This would be a very bad situation
for sending/receiving a wireless signal. Exactly what type of antenna do you
have?


"Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I forgot to mention:
>
> Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is
> obviously inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is
> how ALL cards are inside a desktop.
>
> It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to the
> one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help her,
> when I am there again.
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall
>> low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
>> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it
>> does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
>> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>> BTW. New is Not always better
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2
>>> computers, 1
>>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless
>>> ASUS PCI
>>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>>
>>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>>> could
>>> interfere.
>>>
>>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>>> internet
>>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>>> whereas
>>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>>
>>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>>> card
>>> by ASUS with same results.
>>>
>>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with 1
>>> GB
>>> of RAM.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but
>>> never
>>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>>> (MSN.COM)
>>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>>
>>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>

Ritter 197 wrote:
> I forgot to mention:
>
> Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is
> obviously inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is
> how ALL cards are inside a desktop.
>
> It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to
> the one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help
> her, when I am there again.
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the
>> wall low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
>> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if
>> it does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
>> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>> BTW. New is Not always better
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2
>>> computers, 1
>>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless
>>> ASUS PCI
>>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>>
>>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>>> could
>>> interfere.
>>>
>>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>>> internet
>>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>>> whereas
>>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>>
>>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>>> card
>>> by ASUS with same results.
>>>
>>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range
>>> with 1 GB
>>> of RAM.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but
>>> never
>>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>>> (MSN.COM)
>>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>>
>>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>

The pci card obviously is inside the computer case, but the antenna is
almost certainly on the outside. See if you can detach the antenna from
the card (or list the make/model of the card). If it's detachable, you
can get an extension cable (without or without a high-gain antenna).

You'll have to identify the connector type on the back of the pci card
in order to get the correct cable. Here, for example, is what Linksys
sells for use with their pci wifi cards (there are lots of different
wifi antenna vendors, this is just an example): http://tinyurl.com/3y6hg8

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

Ritter 197 wrote:
> I forgot to mention:
>
> Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is
> obviously inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is
> how ALL cards are inside a desktop.
>
> It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to
> the one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help
> her, when I am there again.
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the
>> wall low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
>> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if
>> it does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
>> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>> BTW. New is Not always better
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2
>>> computers, 1
>>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless
>>> ASUS PCI
>>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>>
>>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>>> could
>>> interfere.
>>>
>>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>>> internet
>>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>>> whereas
>>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>>
>>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>>> card
>>> by ASUS with same results.
>>>
>>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range
>>> with 1 GB
>>> of RAM.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but
>>> never
>>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>>> (MSN.COM)
>>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>>
>>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>

Sorry, I didn't read your original post carefully. Your ASUS WL-138G V2
pci wifi adapter does indeed have a detachable external antenna:
"Reverse connector (RP-SMA) with a detachable antenna"

If you wanted, you could use the Linksys part I linked in my earlier
email, although you probably can find cheaper extension cables (with or
without a stand) by using Google.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

The antenna is OUTSIDE and sticks up.


"Ken Triebold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ritter, your PCI card has to have some kind of antenna on it. Normally the
> antenna is attached to the card but sticks out the rear of the computer to
> the outside world. Another type of wireless PCI card has a remote antenna
> that you can place on top of the computer case and is connected to the
> card with a cable. If your wireless card is not one of the two types that
> I described, then the antenna must be integral with the PCI card itself
> and therefore located inside of the computer. This would be a very bad
> situation for sending/receiving a wireless signal. Exactly what type of
> antenna do you have?
>
>
> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I forgot to mention:
>>
>> Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is
>> obviously inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is
>> how ALL cards are inside a desktop.
>>
>> It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to
>> the one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help
>> her, when I am there again.
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi
>>> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall
>>> low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
>>> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it
>>> does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
>>> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>>> BTW. New is Not always better
>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2
>>>> computers, 1
>>>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>>>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless
>>>> ASUS PCI
>>>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>>>
>>>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>>>> could
>>>> interfere.
>>>>
>>>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>>>> internet
>>>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>>>> whereas
>>>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>>>
>>>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>>>> card
>>>> by ASUS with same results.
>>>>
>>>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with
>>>> 1 GB
>>>> of RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but
>>>> never
>>>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>>>> (MSN.COM)
>>>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>>>
>>>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

This is the card by ASUS:
ASUS PCI
card WL-138G V2


"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ritter 197 wrote:
>> I forgot to mention:
>>
>> Antenna is not stuck behind any wall, it is a PCI card and that is
>> obviously inside the computer and low to the hardwood floor, but that is
>> how ALL cards are inside a desktop.
>>
>> It is not easy to move computer and monitor from the oppositer room to
>> the one where the router is. But - maybe as a last resort, I will help
>> her, when I am there again.
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi
>>> Check were the Antenna is. If it is stuck behind the tower and the wall
>>> low and close to the floor the signal could be blocked.
>>> Try the Computer in the same room few feet away from the Router., if it
>>> does not do well it is probably Hardware problem
>>> As far as Windows go try this, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>>> BTW. New is Not always better
>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "Ritter 197" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> My daughter has Cable modem which works pretty fast. She has 2
>>>> computers, 1
>>>> is hardwired to the router Linksys WRT54G V8 (very new) and the other
>>>> desktop is about 15 feet away with open doors that uses the wireless
>>>> ASUS PCI
>>>> card WL-138G V2 (also very new).
>>>>
>>>> There are no concrete walls, no metal screens, no other hardware that
>>>> could
>>>> interfere.
>>>>
>>>> I saw her this afternoon and watched how SLOW the download of any
>>>> internet
>>>> page is on the wireless desktop. Sometimes dropping to 1 KB /sec.,
>>>> whereas
>>>> the hardwired desktop is instantaneous.
>>>>
>>>> She has tried another router (a Netgear) and another (same model) PCI
>>>> card
>>>> by ASUS with same results.
>>>>
>>>> Both computers are running windows XP and are in the 2.6GHZ range with
>>>> 1 GB
>>>> of RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, the wireless computer says "loaded with some errors" but
>>>> never
>>>> says what the errors are and the web page does seem to load fine
>>>> (MSN.COM)
>>>> and one can go from there to hyperlinks, but again, very slow.
>>>>
>>>> What can possibly be the problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
> The pci card obviously is inside the computer case, but the antenna is
> almost certainly on the outside. See if you can detach the antenna from
> the card (or list the make/model of the card). If it's detachable, you
> can get an extension cable (without or without a high-gain antenna).
>
> You'll have to identify the connector type on the back of the pci card in
> order to get the correct cable. Here, for example, is what Linksys sells
> for use with their pci wifi cards (there are lots of different wifi
> antenna vendors, this is just an example): http://tinyurl.com/3y6hg8
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm