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Thomas M
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      08-06-2003, 09:54 AM
I know that some access points can support both 802.11a and 802.11g in a
turbo mode that will allow speeds up to 108 Mbps. I'm looking for an AP
like that for home use. I would also like one where I can turn the power
up or down in order to limit the coverage area. Anyone know of a good
quality, affordable AP for the home that has these features?

Also, I haven't done a lot of research yet on wireless cards. Again, it
would need to support both 11a and 11g standards in order to use the
turbo mode offered by the AP. Any recommendations?

Thanks for any information that you can provide.

--Tom
 
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Gray D. McCord
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      08-06-2003, 12:32 PM
I've used a Linksys WAP55AG. Don't know about the turbo mode idea though.
Seems to me that, while the AP might be capable of running an A and a G link
concurrently, the client needs to choose one or the other. One note: I
can't sem to make the A-side work with my Dell D600 / Truemobile1400 card
when I turn on WEP. Other than that, it works fine.

Gray
"Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I know that some access points can support both 802.11a and 802.11g in a
> turbo mode that will allow speeds up to 108 Mbps. I'm looking for an AP
> like that for home use. I would also like one where I can turn the power
> up or down in order to limit the coverage area. Anyone know of a good
> quality, affordable AP for the home that has these features?
>
> Also, I haven't done a lot of research yet on wireless cards. Again, it
> would need to support both 11a and 11g standards in order to use the
> turbo mode offered by the AP. Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks for any information that you can provide.
>
> --Tom



 
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Oliver Costich
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      08-08-2003, 04:11 AM
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 03:54:08 -0600, Thomas M
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I know for a fact that there are wireless cards out there that support
>turbo mode. They're called dual band cards. Netgear makes one. I'm
>looking at the add right now. Check out this link:
>
>http://www.mobileplanet.com/product....Fid=MP582500&l
>isting=1
>
>I'm just now sure how good they are. Also, the one above supports 11b,
>not 11g. 11b and 11g devices are in the same band, but 11g is backwards
>compatible with a wider range of devices.
>
>--Tom


It's not turbo but just 11a or 11b. Linksys makes PCI and PCMCIA cards
that are 11a and 11g (and so also 11b).
>
>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
>says...
>> I've used a Linksys WAP55AG. Don't know about the turbo mode idea though.
>> Seems to me that, while the AP might be capable of running an A and a G link
>> concurrently, the client needs to choose one or the other. One note: I
>> can't sem to make the A-side work with my Dell D600 / Truemobile1400 card
>> when I turn on WEP. Other than that, it works fine.
>>
>> Gray
>> "Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I know that some access points can support both 802.11a and 802.11g in a
>> > turbo mode that will allow speeds up to 108 Mbps. I'm looking for an AP
>> > like that for home use. I would also like one where I can turn the power
>> > up or down in order to limit the coverage area. Anyone know of a good
>> > quality, affordable AP for the home that has these features?
>> >
>> > Also, I haven't done a lot of research yet on wireless cards. Again, it
>> > would need to support both 11a and 11g standards in order to use the
>> > turbo mode offered by the AP. Any recommendations?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any information that you can provide.
>> >
>> > --Tom


 
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Thomas M
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      08-08-2003, 09:05 AM
The Linksys AP and cards will support 11a, 11b, and 11g. Since 11b and
11g are both in the 2.4 GHz bands, the AP and cards will only use one of
those stardards, depending on your equipment, but they will use 11a
regardless. This means that the Linksys AP and cards will use 11a
simultaneously with 11b *or* 11g . One radio operates in the 2.4 GHz
range, and the other operates in the 5 GHz range. Because the two use
different frequencies, they don't conflict, so your speed is essentially
doubled. This is called different things by different vendors, but is
often referred to as turbo mode or dual band.

You can verify this information by going to the following page.

http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=35&prid=538

--Tom

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, olc-
(E-Mail Removed) says...

> It's not turbo but just 11a or 11b. Linksys makes PCI and PCMCIA cards
> that are 11a and 11g (and so also 11b).

 
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yuki
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      08-08-2003, 10:18 AM

"Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The Linksys AP and cards will support 11a, 11b, and 11g. Since 11b and
> 11g are both in the 2.4 GHz bands, the AP and cards will only use one of
> those stardards, depending on your equipment, but they will use 11a
> regardless. This means that the Linksys AP and cards will use 11a
> simultaneously with 11b *or* 11g . One radio operates in the 2.4 GHz
> range, and the other operates in the 5 GHz range. Because the two use
> different frequencies, they don't conflict, so your speed is essentially
> doubled. This is called different things by different vendors, but is
> often referred to as turbo mode or dual band.
>
> You can verify this information by going to the following page.
>
> http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=35&prid=538
>
> --Tom


I was lead to believe the Linksys AP does not support Turbo mode.
FWIW, the last paragraph in this link confirms that:
http://www.tomshardware.com/network/...reless-13.html

Atheros recently made an announcement regarding something called
Super A/G with their 802.11a/b/g chipset. D-Link is supposed to be
the first company with a product incorporating the chipset.
http://www.atheros.com/news/DLink_product.html

yuki



 
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Chih-Hsiang Chou
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      08-09-2003, 07:44 AM
Tom,

The only 802.11a/b/g AP/router I know that supports 11a 108 Mbps turbo mode
is the Netgear FWAG114. It also has five levels of transmit power setting
for each radio (11a and 11b/g). Better yet, it is a VPN firewall. The
matching PC Card with turbo mode and power level control is the Netgear
WAG511 (see the good review at
http://www.timhiggins.com/Reviews-43-ProdID-WAG511.php). The only thing
won't fit your requirements probably is the $280+ price for the router.

Like Gray, I can not make my Dell 600m with TrueMobile 1400 card connect to
the FWAG114 with WEP on in 11a mode neither. I suspect it is a TrueMobile
1400 compatibility problem. That prompts me to look help from the Internet
and leads me to your post.

Chih-Hsiang


"Gray D. McCord" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've used a Linksys WAP55AG. Don't know about the turbo mode idea though.
> Seems to me that, while the AP might be capable of running an A and a G

link
> concurrently, the client needs to choose one or the other. One note: I
> can't sem to make the A-side work with my Dell D600 / Truemobile1400 card
> when I turn on WEP. Other than that, it works fine.
>
> Gray
> "Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I know that some access points can support both 802.11a and 802.11g in a
> > turbo mode that will allow speeds up to 108 Mbps. I'm looking for an AP
> > like that for home use. I would also like one where I can turn the

power
> > up or down in order to limit the coverage area. Anyone know of a good
> > quality, affordable AP for the home that has these features?
> >
> > Also, I haven't done a lot of research yet on wireless cards. Again, it
> > would need to support both 11a and 11g standards in order to use the
> > turbo mode offered by the AP. Any recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks for any information that you can provide.
> >
> > --Tom

>
>



 
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Pat
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      08-12-2003, 12:27 AM
The Netgear one is awesome.

"Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I know for a fact that there are wireless cards out there that support
> turbo mode. They're called dual band cards. Netgear makes one. I'm
> looking at the add right now. Check out this link:
>
> http://www.mobileplanet.com/product....Fid=MP582500&l
> isting=1
>
> I'm just now sure how good they are. Also, the one above supports 11b,
> not 11g. 11b and 11g devices are in the same band, but 11g is backwards
> compatible with a wider range of devices.
>
> --Tom
>
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
> says...
> > I've used a Linksys WAP55AG. Don't know about the turbo mode idea

though.
> > Seems to me that, while the AP might be capable of running an A and a G

link
> > concurrently, the client needs to choose one or the other. One note: I
> > can't sem to make the A-side work with my Dell D600 / Truemobile1400

card
> > when I turn on WEP. Other than that, it works fine.
> >
> > Gray
> > "Thomas M" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I know that some access points can support both 802.11a and 802.11g in

a
> > > turbo mode that will allow speeds up to 108 Mbps. I'm looking for an

AP
> > > like that for home use. I would also like one where I can turn the

power
> > > up or down in order to limit the coverage area. Anyone know of a good
> > > quality, affordable AP for the home that has these features?
> > >
> > > Also, I haven't done a lot of research yet on wireless cards. Again,

it
> > > would need to support both 11a and 11g standards in order to use the
> > > turbo mode offered by the AP. Any recommendations?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information that you can provide.
> > >
> > > --Tom



 
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Thomas M
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      08-14-2003, 10:02 AM

> I was lead to believe the Linksys AP does not support Turbo mode.
> FWIW, the last paragraph in this link confirms that:
> http://www.tomshardware.com/network/...reless-13.html


But this link is for *routers*. This thread is discussing *access
points*. Check the model numbers on the products. The link I posted is
to information on the WAP55AG ("AP" for Access Point). The link you
posted is to information on the WRT55AG ("RT" for Router). Not the same
product, or even device type. Apples and oranges.

--Tom
 
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Thomas M
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      08-14-2003, 10:29 AM
In article <uD1Za.103501$YN5.72791@sccrnsc01>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> Tom,
>
> The only 802.11a/b/g AP/router I know that supports 11a 108 Mbps turbo mode
> is the Netgear FWAG114. It also has five levels of transmit power setting
> for each radio (11a and 11b/g). Better yet, it is a VPN firewall. The
> matching PC Card with turbo mode and power level control is the Netgear
> WAG511 (see the good review at
> http://www.timhiggins.com/Reviews-43-ProdID-WAG511.php). The only thing
> won't fit your requirements probably is the $280+ price for the router.
>
> Like Gray, I can not make my Dell 600m with TrueMobile 1400 card connect to
> the FWAG114 with WEP on in 11a mode neither. I suspect it is a TrueMobile
> 1400 compatibility problem. That prompts me to look help from the Internet
> and leads me to your post.
>
> Chih-Hsiang


Thanks for the information! $280 is a little more that I had planned on
spending, but not out of the range of possibility. Maybe I can find it
on the Internet somewhere for cheaper.

One drawback for me personally is that the card is a CardBus, which is
not a bad thing in itself, but I don't think my laptop will support
CardBus cards, so I may not be able to use it.

--Tom
 
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