Application Hang

We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing some
problems with application hangups.

The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No
applications are installed on the server.

Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client PC will
cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows Application Hang.
There are no events showing on the server for the time of the "incident".
All shares on the server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot
the server.


Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is acting
as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the domain server is
disabled through services and unauthorized.

Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?

Hello RR2,

I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and
disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the Server
not from the router, if so configured.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing
> some problems with application hangups.
>
> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No
> applications are installed on the server.
>
> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client
> PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows
> Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the
> time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and
> the only way out is to reboot the server.
>
> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is
> acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the
> domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>
> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>

That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried
changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the internet.
For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't passing the
default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server (before the
crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it that way from the
beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and all worked well.









"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello RR2,
>
> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around and
> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the
> Server not from the router, if so configured.
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now experiencing
>> some problems with application hangups.
>>
>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders. No
>> applications are installed on the server.
>>
>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client
>> PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows
>> Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the
>> time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time and
>> the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>
>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router is
>> acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the
>> domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>
>
>

Hello RR2,

Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP scope
options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and default gateway,
the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it.
It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have
to configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be installed
during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is
the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server properties in
the DNS management console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the
domain you have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public
ip address.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried
> changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the
> internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't
> passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server
> (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it
> that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and
> all worked well.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>
>> Hello RR2,
>>
>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around
>> and
>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the
>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>> Best regards
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>
>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders.
>>> No applications are installed on the server.
>>>
>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client
>>> PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows
>>> Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the
>>> time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time
>>> and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>
>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router
>>> is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the
>>> domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>

Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no one
else was in the office so other logins were avoided.

Server:
DHCP service running and authorized.
scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP)

IPv6 unchecked
IPv4
IPs
192.168.1.2
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18


Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
DHCP disabled.

Client
Obtain IP address automatically
Use following DNS
192.168.1.2
209.253.113.10
209.253.113.18

On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS showed up
under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to automatic.

I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.



"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> Hello RR2,
>
> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP
> scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and
> default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a
> client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP
> server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC, which
> normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC, with a
> forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to
> be set on the server properties in the DNS management console under the
> forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN
> internal DNS server no external/public ip address.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I tried
>> changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to the
>> internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server isn't
>> passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our previous server
>> (before the crash) was setup with the router serving DHCP, I left it
>> that way from the beginning. The old server was an NT-4 server and
>> all worked well.
>>
>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>
>>> Hello RR2,
>>>
>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way around
>>> and
>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on the
>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>> Best regards
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>
>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders.
>>>> No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>
>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a client
>>>> PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC shows
>>>> Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server for the
>>>> time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at that time
>>>> and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>>
>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router
>>>> is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on the
>>>> domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>
>
>

Hello RR2,

For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is
leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS
configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
Please post your scope options also.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no
> one else was in the office so other logins were avoided.
>
> Server:
> DHCP service running and authorized.
> scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP)
> IPv6 unchecked
> IPv4
> IPs
> 192.168.1.2
> 255.255.255.0
> 192.168.1.1
> DNS
> 192.168.1.2
> 209.253.113.10
> 209.253.113.18
> Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
> DHCP disabled.
> Client
> Obtain IP address automatically
> Use following DNS
> 192.168.1.2
> 209.253.113.10
> 209.253.113.18
> On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS
> showed up
> under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
> I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
> automatic.
> I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>
>> Hello RR2,
>>
>> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP
>> scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and
>> default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a
>> client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP
>> server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC,
>> which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC,
>> with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP
>> and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management
>> console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you
>> have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip
>> address.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I
>>> tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to
>>> the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server
>>> isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our
>>> previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving
>>> DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an
>>> NT-4 server and all worked well.
>>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>
>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>
>>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way
>>>> around
>>>> and
>>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on
>>>> the
>>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>>
>>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders.
>>>>> No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a
>>>>> client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC
>>>>> shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server
>>>>> for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at
>>>>> that time and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router
>>>>> is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on
>>>>> the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>>

Hi Meinolf,

I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may guess, my
networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning.

Please clarify the following points:

remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the client,
or both?

"setup a forwarder" Please explain.

Where do I exclude the unused IPs? I could probably stumble around and find
it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to locking
everyone out and having them tell me.








"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> Hello RR2,
>
> For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the ip is
> leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
> As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the DNS
> configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
> Please post your scope options also.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no
>> one else was in the office so other logins were avoided.
>>
>> Server:
>> DHCP service running and authorized.
>> scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP)
>> IPv6 unchecked
>> IPv4
>> IPs
>> 192.168.1.2
>> 255.255.255.0
>> 192.168.1.1
>> DNS
>> 192.168.1.2
>> 209.253.113.10
>> 209.253.113.18
>> Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
>> DHCP disabled.
>> Client
>> Obtain IP address automatically
>> Use following DNS
>> 192.168.1.2
>> 209.253.113.10
>> 209.253.113.18
>> On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS
>> showed up
>> under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
>> I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
>> automatic.
>> I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
>>
>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>
>>> Hello RR2,
>>>
>>> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the DHCP
>>> scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS server and
>>> default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig /renew on a
>>> client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings from the DHCP
>>> server. Additional you have to configure the DNS server from the DC,
>>> which normally will be installed during promotion of the first DC,
>>> with a forwarder ip address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP
>>> and has to be set on the server properties in the DNS management
>>> console under the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you
>>> have to use only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip
>>> address.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I
>>>> tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to
>>>> the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain server
>>>> isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since our
>>>> previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router serving
>>>> DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old server was an
>>>> NT-4 server and all worked well.
>>>>
>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way
>>>>> around
>>>>> and
>>>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on
>>>>> the
>>>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and folders.
>>>>>> No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a
>>>>>> client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client PC
>>>>>> shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the server
>>>>>> for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server lock at
>>>>>> that time and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our router
>>>>>> is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP server on
>>>>>> the domain server is disabled through services and unauthorized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>>>
>
>

Hello RR2,

See inline

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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> Hi Meinolf,
>
> I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may
> guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning.
>
> Please clarify the following points:
>
> remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the
> client, or both?

On all computers NIC'S in your domain.

> "setup a forwarder" Please explain.

On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type
"dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not displayed.
If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose properties. On
the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill in the 209.x.x.x
addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are greyed out, open
the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can see a "." zone (root
zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it.
Then close the DNS management console and open it again. Now you can add
the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out.

> Where do I exclude the unused IPs?

Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you
can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and choose
add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can either specify
a range or a single ip address.

> I could probably stumble around
> and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to
> locking everyone out and having them tell me.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>
>> Hello RR2,
>>
>> For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the
>> ip is
>> leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
>> As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the
>> DNS
>> configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
>> Please post your scope options also.
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no
>>> one else was in the office so other logins were avoided.
>>>
>>> Server:
>>> DHCP service running and authorized.
>>> scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP)
>>> IPv6 unchecked
>>> IPv4
>>> IPs
>>> 192.168.1.2
>>> 255.255.255.0
>>> 192.168.1.1
>>> DNS
>>> 192.168.1.2
>>> 209.253.113.10
>>> 209.253.113.18
>>> Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
>>> DHCP disabled.
>>> Client
>>> Obtain IP address automatically
>>> Use following DNS
>>> 192.168.1.2
>>> 209.253.113.10
>>> 209.253.113.18
>>> On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS
>>> showed up
>>> under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
>>> I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
>>> automatic.
>>> I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>
>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>
>>>> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the
>>>> DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS
>>>> server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig
>>>> /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings
>>>> from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS
>>>> server from the DC, which normally will be installed during
>>>> promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is
>>>> the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server
>>>> properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab.
>>>> On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal
>>>> DNS server no external/public ip address.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I
>>>>> tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to
>>>>> the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain
>>>>> server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since
>>>>> our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router
>>>>> serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old
>>>>> server was an NT-4 server and all worked well.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and
>>>>>>> folders. No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a
>>>>>>> client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client
>>>>>>> PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the
>>>>>>> server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server
>>>>>>> lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our
>>>>>>> router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP
>>>>>>> server on the domain server is disabled through services and
>>>>>>> unauthorized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>>>>

Hello Meinolf,

OK, here's where we stand.
I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232)
No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part.

209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client.

Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the router.

I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client. Even
rebooted the client.

Still no internet.

NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of the
company is still logged in.



"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> Hello RR2,
>
> See inline
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
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>> Hi Meinolf,
>>
>> I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may
>> guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning.
>>
>> Please clarify the following points:
>>
>> remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the
>> client, or both?
>
> On all computers NIC'S in your domain.
>
>> "setup a forwarder" Please explain.
>
> On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and type
> "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server if not
> displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and choose
> properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and here fill
> in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If the options are
> greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup zones, here you can
> see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS root servers), rightclick
> the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS management console and open it
> again. Now you can add the addresses to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not
> longer be greyed out.
>
>> Where do I exclude the unused IPs?
>
> Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here you
> can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions and
> choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window you can
> either specify a range or a single ip address.
>
>> I could probably stumble around
>> and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed to
>> locking everyone out and having them tell me.
>>
>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>
>>> Hello RR2,
>>>
>>> For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the
>>> ip is
>>> leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
>>> As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from the
>>> DNS
>>> configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
>>> Please post your scope options also.
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when no
>>>> one else was in the office so other logins were avoided.
>>>>
>>>> Server:
>>>> DHCP service running and authorized.
>>>> scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one IP)
>>>> IPv6 unchecked
>>>> IPv4
>>>> IPs
>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>> 255.255.255.0
>>>> 192.168.1.1
>>>> DNS
>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>> 209.253.113.10
>>>> 209.253.113.18
>>>> Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
>>>> DHCP disabled.
>>>> Client
>>>> Obtain IP address automatically
>>>> Use following DNS
>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>> 209.253.113.10
>>>> 209.253.113.18
>>>> On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS
>>>> showed up
>>>> under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
>>>> I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
>>>> automatic.
>>>> I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the
>>>>> DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS
>>>>> server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run ipconfig
>>>>> /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the correc tsettings
>>>>> from the DHCP server. Additional you have to configure the DNS
>>>>> server from the DC, which normally will be installed during
>>>>> promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip address. This ip is
>>>>> the DNS server from your ISP and has to be set on the server
>>>>> properties in the DNS management console under the forwarders tab.
>>>>> On all machines in the domain you have to use only the LAN internal
>>>>> DNS server no external/public ip address.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I
>>>>>> tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get to
>>>>>> the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain
>>>>>> server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since
>>>>>> our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router
>>>>>> serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old
>>>>>> server was an NT-4 server and all worked well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>>>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and
>>>>>>>> folders. No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a
>>>>>>>> client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client
>>>>>>>> PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the
>>>>>>>> server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the server
>>>>>>>> lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our
>>>>>>>> router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP
>>>>>>>> server on the domain server is disabled through services and
>>>>>>>> unauthorized.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>>>>>
>
>

Hello RR2,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the client and the server. The
Exclusions in DHCP you have to add by hand, will NOT be filled automatic,
how to i posted before.
Again, is the DHCP server authorized? In the DHCP console rightclick the
server and check AUTHORIZE option. Also did you activate the scope?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hello Meinolf,
>
> OK, here's where we stand.
> I've extended the scope to five IPs (227-232)
> No exclusion area listed even after refresh, so I skipped that part.
> 209..... DNS listings removed from the server as well as the client.
>
> Forwarders were already set. Must have been picked up from the
> router.
>
> I did the ipconfig series (all, release, renew, all) on the client.
> Even rebooted the client.
>
> Still no internet.
>
> NOTE: I did not kill the DHCP service on the router as the rest of
> the company is still logged in.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>
>> Hello RR2,
>>
>> See inline
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi Meinolf,
>>>
>>> I really appreciate the info you're coming back with. As you may
>>> guess, my networking abilities are limited to hands-on learning.
>>>
>>> Please clarify the following points:
>>>
>>> remove the dns 209............... Is this from the server nic, the
>>> client, or both?
>>>
>> On all computers NIC'S in your domain.
>>
>>> "setup a forwarder" Please explain.
>>>
>> On the server open the DNS management console, go to Start, Run and
>> type "dnsmgmt.msc" without the quotes. In the console add the server
>> if not displayed. If you see the servername, mark it, rightclick and
>> choose properties. On the opened window choose the FORWARDERS tab and
>> here fill in the 209.x.x.x addresses, doesn't matter which order. If
>> the options are greyed out, open the + and go to the Forward lookup
>> zones, here you can see a "." zone (root zone, only used from DNS
>> root servers), rightclick the "." and delete it. Then close the DNS
>> management console and open it again. Now you can add the addresses
>> to the FORWARDERS tab, it will not longer be greyed out.
>>
>>> Where do I exclude the unused IPs?
>>>
>> Open the DHCP console, choose your created scope and open the +. Here
>> you can see Exclusions, scope options, leases. Rightclick Exclusions
>> and choose add exclusion range or similar, on the popped up window
>> you can either specify a range or a single ip address.
>>
>>> I could probably stumble around
>>> and find it, but it's easier to ask and prove I'm stupid as opposed
>>> to
>>> locking everyone out and having them tell me.
>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>
>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>
>>>> For the scope, use more then one ip, make a range of 5 and when the
>>>> ip is
>>>> leased from the client, exclude the other ones.
>>>> As said before remove the 209.253.113.10 and 209.253.113.18 from
>>>> the
>>>> DNS
>>>> configuration on the NIC's and setup a forwarder as described.
>>>> Please post your scope options also.
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Here's the steup I tried. I limited this to one test client when
>>>>> no one else was in the office so other logins were avoided.
>>>>>
>>>>> Server:
>>>>> DHCP service running and authorized.
>>>>> scope: 192.168.1.227 - 192.168.1.227 (so as to only issue one
>>>>> IP)
>>>>> IPv6 unchecked
>>>>> IPv4
>>>>> IPs
>>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>>> 255.255.255.0
>>>>> 192.168.1.1
>>>>> DNS
>>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>>> 209.253.113.10
>>>>> 209.253.113.18
>>>>> Router (IP is 192.168.1.1)
>>>>> DHCP disabled.
>>>>> Client
>>>>> Obtain IP address automatically
>>>>> Use following DNS
>>>>> 192.168.1.2
>>>>> 209.253.113.10
>>>>> 209.253.113.18
>>>>> On client I reseased and then refreshed ipconfig. The correct DNS
>>>>> showed up
>>>>> under ipconfig /all, but default gateway was blank. No internet.
>>>>> I also ran the same routine with the DNS on the client set to
>>>>> automatic.
>>>>> I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere along the line.
>>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you authorize the DHCP server and activate the scope? If the
>>>>>> DHCP scope options are setup correctly with domain internal DNS
>>>>>> server and default gateway, the router ip from the LAN run
>>>>>> ipconfig /renew on a client or reboot it. It should get the
>>>>>> correc tsettings from the DHCP server. Additional you have to
>>>>>> configure the DNS server from the DC, which normally will be
>>>>>> installed during promotion of the first DC, with a forwarder ip
>>>>>> address. This ip is the DNS server from your ISP and has to be
>>>>>> set on the server properties in the DNS management console under
>>>>>> the forwarders tab. On all machines in the domain you have to use
>>>>>> only the LAN internal DNS server no external/public ip address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> That would be my desire, but I'm haveing problems there too. I
>>>>>>> tried changing to the server for DHCP service, but couldn't get
>>>>>>> to the internet. For some reason, the DHCP server on the domain
>>>>>>> server isn't passing the default gateway to the clients. Since
>>>>>>> our previous server (before the crash) was setup with the router
>>>>>>> serving DHCP, I left it that way from the beginning. The old
>>>>>>> server was an NT-4 server and all worked well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello RR2,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would not use the DHCP form the router, do it the other way
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> disable it, install the server as DHCP server and also use DNS
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Server not from the router, if so configured.
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>>>>>>>> warranties,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>>>> We've recently installed Windows Server 2008 and are now
>>>>>>>>> experiencing some problems with application hangups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The server is a domain server with a few shared files and
>>>>>>>>> folders. No applications are installed on the server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Periodically, someone updating one of the shared files from a
>>>>>>>>> client PC will cause a lockup. The event viewer on the client
>>>>>>>>> PC shows Application Hang. There are no events showing on the
>>>>>>>>> server for the time of the "incident". All shares on the
>>>>>>>>> server lock at that time and the only way out is to reboot the
>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Additional information that may or may not be related. Our
>>>>>>>>> router is acting as DHCP server for the entire LAN. The DHCP
>>>>>>>>> server on the domain server is disabled through services and
>>>>>>>>> unauthorized.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions as to what could be causing the lockups?
>>>>>>>>>