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      05-24-2004, 08:21 PM
I seem to be getting packet loss with huge downloads, suppose it could be a
router problem or just sods law. I'd be interested in feedback from any
other f2s users on this and f2s in general.

Cheers

Jay


 
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      05-24-2004, 09:11 PM
On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:21:27 +0100 and in article <c8tlg3$kqk$1
@news.freedom2surf.net>, news.freedom2surf.net said...
: I seem to be getting packet loss with huge downloads, suppose it could be a
: router problem or just sods law. I'd be interested in feedback from any
: other f2s users on this and f2s in general.
:
I'm afraid not mate. Perhaps you could post a traceroute to some IPs
you are having trouble contacting and I will post the output from my F2s
connection? I can't really comment on packet loss tbh as I use NTL at
University, but my debian box at home is hosted on F2S ADSL. I have
experienced no slow downloads when using apt-get or wget. But as I
said, happy to try traceroute for you.

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      05-24-2004, 09:28 PM
Can't give you IPs as it's the update patch for Sony's Planetside
multiplayer game and that uses it's own download software. The only other
file I have had hassle with is the install files for Project Entropia which
come to about 500+mb and I'm sure you don't want to subject yourself to
anything that huge, it's at 217.212.241.43 anyway if that traceroute thing
can test a connection without having to commit to the download, all far too
technical for me!

What you've said is enough to make me think that it is probably hardware
related if anything. It could also be a blocked port on my router, though
you'd think that'd stop the download in its tracks. Can't figure how to
apply the port related info on Sony's tech help pages with the set-up on
this modem. Sods law I picked a Mentor model who offer zero in the way of
tech support. Wish I'd gone with the one F2S offer now.

Jay

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> On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:21:27 +0100 and in article <c8tlg3$kqk$1
> @news.freedom2surf.net>, news.freedom2surf.net said...
> : I seem to be getting packet loss with huge downloads, suppose it could

be a
> : router problem or just sods law. I'd be interested in feedback from any
> : other f2s users on this and f2s in general.
> :
> I'm afraid not mate. Perhaps you could post a traceroute to some IPs
> you are having trouble contacting and I will post the output from my F2s
> connection? I can't really comment on packet loss tbh as I use NTL at
> University, but my debian box at home is hosted on F2S ADSL. I have
> experienced no slow downloads when using apt-get or wget. But as I
> said, happy to try traceroute for you.
>
> --
> chris



 
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      05-24-2004, 09:57 PM
On Mon, 24 May 2004 22:28:51 +0100 and in article <c8tpet$m30$1
@news.freedom2surf.net>, thripston said...
:
: Can't give you IPs as it's the update patch for Sony's Planetside
: multiplayer game and that uses it's own download software. The only other
: file I have had hassle with is the install files for Project Entropia which
: come to about 500+mb and I'm sure you don't want to subject yourself to
: anything that huge, it's at 217.212.241.43 anyway if that traceroute thing
: can test a connection without having to commit to the download, all far too
: technical for me!

chris@dagobah:~$ traceroute 217.212.241.43
traceroute to 217.212.241.43 (217.212.241.43), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
1 router (192.168.2.1) 1.620 ms 1.204 ms 0.889 ms
2 i-194-106-33-164.freedom2surf.net (194.106.33.164) 25.495 ms
25.731 ms 51.
344 ms
3 i-194-106-32-62.freedom2surf.net (194.106.32.62) 125.994 ms
225.466 ms 278
..953 ms
4 ge3-3.a01.londen03.uk.ra.verio.net (213.130.48.201) 29.639 ms
28.662 ms 27
..152 ms
5 ge-0-3-0-4.r00.londen03.uk.bb.verio.net (213.130.47.65) 23.620 ms
27.369 ms
27.690 ms
6 213.248.75.113 (213.248.75.113) 26.442 ms 26.773 ms 26.227 ms
7 ldn-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net (213.248.74.13) 29.351 ms 25.287 ms
26.742 ms
8 adm-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.158) 36.549 ms 36.230 ms
35.143 ms
9 hbg-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.162) 43.548 ms 38.174 ms
38.055 ms
10 kbn-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net (213.248.65.126) 42.508 ms 42.336 ms
43.467 ms
11 s-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.30) 51.387 ms 51.276 ms
51.607 ms
12 s-b3-pos4-0.telia.net (213.248.66.10) 52.115 ms 51.565 ms 49.873
ms
13 s-hdn-i1-geth1-1.telia.net (213.248.64.86) 50.647 ms 50.721 ms
50.630 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *

Those hop times are fine. The traceroute never makes it to its final
destination, but this is because the host is blocking ICMP replies.

: What you've said is enough to make me think that it is probably hardware
: related if anything.

I wouldn't be so sure....? What gateway are you on? To find out, just
look at the 'gw' bit in your ADSL username. I'm on gw5.

If that site is the only one you're having problems with then I would
imagine its something their side, not F2S. Ask someone else on a
different ISP to download the same file and see what speeds he gets?
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      05-25-2004, 11:39 AM
> I seem to be getting packet loss with huge downloads, suppose it could be a
> router problem or just sods law. I'd be interested in feedback from any
> other f2s users on this and f2s in general.


Hi,

Could you post a tracert please so we can see if we can help?

Thanks

Justin Johnson
Freedom2Support Project Leader
http://www.freedom2support.net
 
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      05-25-2004, 01:21 PM
A what? Sorry, you'll have to spell it out. If you are asking for what I
think you are asking for their IP address is: 217.212.241.43 and the other
reply on this thread contain the traceroute result for it if that helps.

J

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> > I seem to be getting packet loss with huge downloads, suppose it could

be a
> > router problem or just sods law. I'd be interested in feedback from any
> > other f2s users on this and f2s in general.

>
> Hi,
>
> Could you post a tracert please so we can see if we can help?
>
> Thanks
>
> Justin Johnson
> Freedom2Support Project Leader
> http://www.freedom2support.net



 
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      05-25-2004, 01:32 PM

> traceroute to 217.212.241.43 (217.212.241.43), 30 hops max, 38 byte
> packets
> 1 router (192.168.2.1) 1.620 ms 1.204 ms 0.889 ms
> 2 i-194-106-33-164.freedom2surf.net (194.106.33.164) 25.495 ms
> 25.731 ms 51.
> 344 ms
> 3 i-194-106-32-62.freedom2surf.net (194.106.32.62) 125.994 ms
> 225.466 ms 278
> .953 ms
> 4 ge3-3.a01.londen03.uk.ra.verio.net (213.130.48.201) 29.639 ms
> 28.662 ms 27
> .152 ms
> 5 ge-0-3-0-4.r00.londen03.uk.bb.verio.net (213.130.47.65) 23.620 ms
> 27.369 ms
> 27.690 ms
> 6 213.248.75.113 (213.248.75.113) 26.442 ms 26.773 ms 26.227 ms
> 7 ldn-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net (213.248.74.13) 29.351 ms 25.287 ms
> 26.742 ms
> 8 adm-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.158) 36.549 ms 36.230 ms
> 35.143 ms
> 9 hbg-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.162) 43.548 ms 38.174 ms
> 38.055 ms
> 10 kbn-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net (213.248.65.126) 42.508 ms 42.336 ms
> 43.467 ms
> 11 s-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.30) 51.387 ms 51.276 ms
> 51.607 ms
> 12 s-b3-pos4-0.telia.net (213.248.66.10) 52.115 ms 51.565 ms 49.873
> ms
> 13 s-hdn-i1-geth1-1.telia.net (213.248.64.86) 50.647 ms 50.721 ms
> 50.630 ms
> 14 * * *
> 15 * * *
> 16 * * *
>
> Those hop times are fine. The traceroute never makes it to its final
> destination, but this is because the host is blocking ICMP replies.


Thanks. I'm guessing hop times are fine is a good thing. Afraid it's all
gibberish to me but I assume the traceroute not getting there doesn't imply
there's any fault.

> : What you've said is enough to make me think that it is probably hardware
> : related if anything.
>
> I wouldn't be so sure....? What gateway are you on? To find out, just
> look at the 'gw' bit in your ADSL username. I'm on gw5.


Same.

> If that site is the only one you're having problems with then I would
> imagine its something their side, not F2S. Ask someone else on a
> different ISP to download the same file and see what speeds he gets?


I will but I'm expecting them to get it ok as my problem is something with
my set-up - somewhere! I was suggested to check my virtual memory settings
as it might be screwing up the file decompression. I think it probably was
too low and I made sure it was set to system managed on all drives which if
I understand correctly makes all available space usable if needed. Didn't
solve the problem though but at least that's narrowed down the
possibilities.

Jay


 
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