Any wireless gaming adapters which support WPA2-enterprise?

As per subject.

I'd like to connect an XBOX to a WLAN which uses
WPA2 Enterprise ( RADIUS server based authentication. )

I can find a few, like the D-link DWL-G820 :
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=333
that support WPA-PSK, but that won't work in the environment
we have here, and the WLAN is not going to be down-graded
just for an XBOX.

WPA2 has been around long enough now, and many domestic routers now support
it. It seems strange that wireless bridges are not available to use it.
I can't find one that does WPA2-PSK, never mind WPA2-enterprise!

I can of course go with a wired solution, and that seems
the most likely outcome as far as I can see.

--
Best Regards
Ron Lowe

I agree on your "downgrading" statement, Ron, but I don't believe you're
going to find support of WPA2 on wireless gaming devices yet. 8-) I would
suggest you segment your LAN, perhaps following the information in one of
MVP Barb Bowman's columns on the Expert Zone, starting with her recent
Optimizing Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, Xbox 360, and Media Center
Extender Networks here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...extenders.mspx
She has additional information, including information on segmenting LANs,
and a Webcast on WPA-based security here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Ron Lowe" <ron-msng@{d.e.l.e.t.e}lowe-family.me.uk> wrote in message
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> As per subject.
>
> I'd like to connect an XBOX to a WLAN which uses
> WPA2 Enterprise ( RADIUS server based authentication. )
>
> I can find a few, like the D-link DWL-G820 :
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=333
> that support WPA-PSK, but that won't work in the environment
> we have here, and the WLAN is not going to be down-graded
> just for an XBOX.
>
> WPA2 has been around long enough now, and many domestic routers now
> support it. It seems strange that wireless bridges are not available to
> use it. I can't find one that does WPA2-PSK, never mind WPA2-enterprise!
>
> I can of course go with a wired solution, and that seems
> the most likely outcome as far as I can see.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ron Lowe
>
>

Ron,

I understand the thinking behind not wanting to downgrade your wireless
security just for an Xbox, but I think it is less of an issue than you make
it. Plain old WPA-PSK is virtually uncrackable with a VERY GOOD password.
I'm talking if you use a random ASCII pw of appropriate length, there is no
way anyone is going to get to that. These newer standards, while technically
superior, are unneeded in almost every application. If you have the router
to support WPA2, there's no reason not to use it, but I wouldn't go spending
several hundred dollars on a bridge to support it, when WPA-PSK is perfectly
appropriate. http://www.grc.com/password is a great site for generating
perfect passwords, and nothing is cached on the site.

"Ron Lowe" wrote:

> As per subject.
>
> I'd like to connect an XBOX to a WLAN which uses
> WPA2 Enterprise ( RADIUS server based authentication. )
>
> I can find a few, like the D-link DWL-G820 :
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=333
> that support WPA-PSK, but that won't work in the environment
> we have here, and the WLAN is not going to be down-graded
> just for an XBOX.
>
> WPA2 has been around long enough now, and many domestic routers now support
> it. It seems strange that wireless bridges are not available to use it.
> I can't find one that does WPA2-PSK, never mind WPA2-enterprise!
>
> I can of course go with a wired solution, and that seems
> the most likely outcome as far as I can see.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ron Lowe
>
>
>

Thanks, that is the best I have seen yet.
Not quite there, but very much headed the right way.

I don't think what I want actually exists yet, but I reckon
the next generation of this product probably will do what I want.

--
Best Regards
Ron Lowe


> The ZyXEL G-405 wireless ethernet adapter does WPA with 802.1x and EAP but
> I'm not sure about WPA2
>

>> I'd like to connect an XBOX to a WLAN which uses
>> WPA2 Enterprise ( RADIUS server based authentication. )

Hi,

That's probably true for a small home LAN with one or two users and a simple
wireless router!

The WLAN I'm talking about is part of an enterprise network that spans the
four corners of the world, has hundreds of CISCO 1100 and 1200 access points
all told, and a bunch of RADIUS servers and a certificate infrastructure to
support it. It took months of discussions and consultations to agree on
the configuration we have now, and getting any changes would now require an
Act of God. Like I say, we won't be re-configuring it for such a trivial
reason!

--
Best Regards
Ron Lowe


"longboarder543" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:43D3B4AD-CA33-4D40-B228-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ron,
>
> I understand the thinking behind not wanting to downgrade your wireless
> security just for an Xbox, but I think it is less of an issue than you
> make
> it. Plain old WPA-PSK is virtually uncrackable with a VERY GOOD password.
> I'm talking if you use a random ASCII pw of appropriate length, there is
> no
> way anyone is going to get to that. These newer standards, while
> technically
> superior, are unneeded in almost every application. If you have the
> router
> to support WPA2, there's no reason not to use it, but I wouldn't go
> spending
> several hundred dollars on a bridge to support it, when WPA-PSK is
> perfectly
> appropriate. http://www.grc.com/password is a great site for generating
> perfect passwords, and nothing is cached on the site.
>

Ron Lowe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That's probably true for a small home LAN with one or two users and a simple
> wireless router!
>
> The WLAN I'm talking about is part of an enterprise network that spans the
> four corners of the world, has hundreds of CISCO 1100 and 1200 access points
> all told, and a bunch of RADIUS servers and a certificate infrastructure to
> support it. It took months of discussions and consultations to agree on
> the configuration we have now, and getting any changes would now require an
> Act of God. Like I say, we won't be re-configuring it for such a trivial
> reason!
>
why not pay for another line then?

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2&pid=376 will do what you want
most likely. (access point client mode).

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:38:34 -0000, "Ron Lowe"
<ron-msng@{d.e.l.e.t.e}lowe-family.me.uk> wrote:

>As per subject.
>
>I'd like to connect an XBOX to a WLAN which uses
>WPA2 Enterprise ( RADIUS server based authentication. )
>
>I can find a few, like the D-link DWL-G820 :
>http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=333
>that support WPA-PSK, but that won't work in the environment
>we have here, and the WLAN is not going to be down-graded
>just for an XBOX.
>
>WPA2 has been around long enough now, and many domestic routers now support
>it. It seems strange that wireless bridges are not available to use it.
>I can't find one that does WPA2-PSK, never mind WPA2-enterprise!
>
>I can of course go with a wired solution, and that seems
>the most likely outcome as far as I can see.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Yes, it nearly does.
However in bridge or client mode, it only works with another identicle
DWL-7700AP on the other side as the root AP, according to the user manual I
downloaded.

Another possible solution was to use a spare Cisco 1100 AP in Workgroup
Bridge mode. Like the D-Link, they only associate as a client to a Cisco
root AP. This would work OK, only this configuration only supports Cisco's
LEAP authentication, from what I've read.

The only way of doing this wirelessly as far as I can see is to build my own
Workgroup Bridge using an old laptop with a WPA-2 capable card in it, and
use XP to create a network bridge between the wireless and wired interfaces.
But life's too short...

I've just run cat5 cable to the thing and had done with it!

Thanks,

--
Best Regards
Ron Lowe


"Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2&pid=376 will do what you want
> most likely. (access point client mode).
>

LOL! Sounds good.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Ron Lowe" <ron-msng@{d.e.l.e.t.e}lowe-family.me.uk> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes, it nearly does.
> However in bridge or client mode, it only works with another identicle
> DWL-7700AP on the other side as the root AP, according to the user manual
> I downloaded.
>
> Another possible solution was to use a spare Cisco 1100 AP in Workgroup
> Bridge mode. Like the D-Link, they only associate as a client to a Cisco
> root AP. This would work OK, only this configuration only supports
> Cisco's LEAP authentication, from what I've read.
>
> The only way of doing this wirelessly as far as I can see is to build my
> own Workgroup Bridge using an old laptop with a WPA-2 capable card in it,
> and use XP to create a network bridge between the wireless and wired
> interfaces. But life's too short...
>
> I've just run cat5 cable to the thing and had done with it!
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ron Lowe
>
>
> "Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2&pid=376 will do what you want
>> most likely. (access point client mode).
>>
>
>

FWIW, most of these vendors document that they only work with their
specific whatever as otherwise it is a tech support nightmare. But
I've had good luck as long it is the same radio chip and both devices
support WDS. Isn't the Cisco 1100 "b" only? nowhere near good enough
for gaming..

Anyway, running hardwired is indeed easier... amd life IS too short
;-)

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:36:11 -0000, "Ron Lowe"
<ron-msng@{d.e.l.e.t.e}lowe-family.me.uk> wrote:

>Yes, it nearly does.
>However in bridge or client mode, it only works with another identicle
>DWL-7700AP on the other side as the root AP, according to the user manual I
>downloaded.
>
>Another possible solution was to use a spare Cisco 1100 AP in Workgroup
>Bridge mode. Like the D-Link, they only associate as a client to a Cisco
>root AP. This would work OK, only this configuration only supports Cisco's
>LEAP authentication, from what I've read.
>
>The only way of doing this wirelessly as far as I can see is to build my own
>Workgroup Bridge using an old laptop with a WPA-2 capable card in it, and
>use XP to create a network bridge between the wireless and wired interfaces.
>But life's too short...
>
>I've just run cat5 cable to the thing and had done with it!
>
>Thanks,
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/