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Todd
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      11-26-2006, 02:36 AM
I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the posts
ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...

I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a Windows
2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.

Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works very
well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.

Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.

But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and 2003
machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.

In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was mention of
security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but with one
exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.

One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy, that
needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion level),
and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to work (the
setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however, that setting as
he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow DOS clients access.

So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...

So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP SP-2
and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP, please
send a reply.

Thanks!

P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
change any settings?

 
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      11-27-2006, 07:26 AM
Hello Todd,

Check yoor policy about SMB signing. IF it is enabled you must disable it
to use DOS boot disks. But SMB is designed for security reason.

Best regards

myweb
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> I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the posts
> ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...
>
> I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a Windows
> 2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.
>
> Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works very
> well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.
>
> Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.
>
> But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and 2003
> machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.
>
> In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was mention
> of security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but with one
> exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.
>
> One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy, that
> needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion level),
> and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to work (the
> setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however, that setting as
> he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow DOS clients access.
>
> So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...
>
> So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP SP-2
> and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP, please
> send a reply.
>
> Thanks!
>
> P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
> change any settings?
>



 
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      12-01-2006, 03:34 AM
Hmmm,

Well, right now I am at home, so I don't have a Win2003 server in front
of me, but I also would like DOS access to XP SP-2 machines, and I
assumed I would find this setting in XP as well, but I do not.

Where is this setting in XP?

I am running gpedit.msc and am in:

Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local
Policies/Security Options

Isn't this where I would find this?

I don't see a reference to SMB in there...

Thanks for any help!





myweb wrote:
> Hello Todd,
>
> Check yoor policy about SMB signing. IF it is enabled you must disable it
> to use DOS boot disks. But SMB is designed for security reason.
>
> Best regards
>
> myweb
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
>
>
>
> > I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the posts
> > ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...
> >
> > I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a Windows
> > 2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.
> >
> > Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works very
> > well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.
> >
> > Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.
> >
> > But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and 2003
> > machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.
> >
> > In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was mention
> > of security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but with one
> > exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.
> >
> > One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy, that
> > needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion level),
> > and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to work (the
> > setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however, that setting as
> > he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow DOS clients access.
> >
> > So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...
> >
> > So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP SP-2
> > and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP, please
> > send a reply.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
> > change any settings?
> >


 
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      12-04-2006, 06:19 AM
Hello Todd,

SMB signing is a feature from a DC not a WS. You have to check it in your
Domain controller policy.

Best regards

myweb
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no rights.



> Hmmm,
>
> Well, right now I am at home, so I don't have a Win2003 server in
> front of me, but I also would like DOS access to XP SP-2 machines, and
> I assumed I would find this setting in XP as well, but I do not.
>
> Where is this setting in XP?
>
> I am running gpedit.msc and am in:
>
> Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local
> Policies/Security Options
>
> Isn't this where I would find this?
>
> I don't see a reference to SMB in there...
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> myweb wrote:
>
>> Hello Todd,
>>
>> Check yoor policy about SMB signing. IF it is enabled you must
>> disable it to use DOS boot disks. But SMB is designed for security
>> reason.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> myweb
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>>> I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the
>>> posts ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...
>>>
>>> I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a
>>> Windows 2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.
>>>
>>> Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works
>>> very well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.
>>>
>>> Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.
>>>
>>> But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and 2003
>>> machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.
>>>
>>> In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was mention
>>> of security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but with one
>>> exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.
>>>
>>> One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy, that
>>> needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion
>>> level), and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to
>>> work (the setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however, that
>>> setting as he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow DOS
>>> clients access.
>>>
>>> So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...
>>>
>>> So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP
>>> SP-2 and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP,
>>> please send a reply.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
>>> change any settings?
>>>



 
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Todd
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      12-07-2006, 04:14 AM
Thanks! I will look for it there.

One other question, if I could. Is there any way to get a DOS boot disk
to attach to a standalone XP workstation that is simply in it's own
workgroup and not attached to any domain controller?

I often tote around my personal laptop (which is on the default
"workgroup" workgroup) when I work on friend's computers, and I like to
make a ghost image of their machine before & after I am finished as to
have a good working backup. I am currently doing this by using a IPX
boot disk, but of course if I make an IP boot disk, I cannot gain
access to the workstation. Is there any way to do this? Thanks!




myweb wrote:
> Hello Todd,
>
> SMB signing is a feature from a DC not a WS. You have to check it in your
> Domain controller policy.
>
> Best regards
>
> myweb
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
>
>
>
> > Hmmm,
> >
> > Well, right now I am at home, so I don't have a Win2003 server in
> > front of me, but I also would like DOS access to XP SP-2 machines, and
> > I assumed I would find this setting in XP as well, but I do not.
> >
> > Where is this setting in XP?
> >
> > I am running gpedit.msc and am in:
> >
> > Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local
> > Policies/Security Options
> >
> > Isn't this where I would find this?
> >
> > I don't see a reference to SMB in there...
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > myweb wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Todd,
> >>
> >> Check yoor policy about SMB signing. IF it is enabled you must
> >> disable it to use DOS boot disks. But SMB is designed for security
> >> reason.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> myweb
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >>> I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the
> >>> posts ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...
> >>>
> >>> I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a
> >>> Windows 2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.
> >>>
> >>> Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works
> >>> very well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.
> >>>
> >>> Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.
> >>>
> >>> But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and 2003
> >>> machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.
> >>>
> >>> In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was mention
> >>> of security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but with one
> >>> exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.
> >>>
> >>> One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy, that
> >>> needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion
> >>> level), and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to
> >>> work (the setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however, that
> >>> setting as he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow DOS
> >>> clients access.
> >>>
> >>> So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...
> >>>
> >>> So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP
> >>> SP-2 and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP,
> >>> please send a reply.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
> >>> change any settings?
> >>>


 
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      12-07-2006, 05:58 AM
Hello Todd,

Create a network mapping disk with Ghost. Fill in all the infos pointing
to your laptop (IP,username, Password). This should work. Try it out in this
way. We use it for mappings to servers in our network and its very easy to
create the image this way.

Best regards

myweb
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> Thanks! I will look for it there.
>
> One other question, if I could. Is there any way to get a DOS boot
> disk to attach to a standalone XP workstation that is simply in it's
> own workgroup and not attached to any domain controller?
>
> I often tote around my personal laptop (which is on the default
> "workgroup" workgroup) when I work on friend's computers, and I like
> to make a ghost image of their machine before & after I am finished as
> to have a good working backup. I am currently doing this by using a
> IPX boot disk, but of course if I make an IP boot disk, I cannot gain
> access to the workstation. Is there any way to do this? Thanks!
>
> myweb wrote:
>
>> Hello Todd,
>>
>> SMB signing is a feature from a DC not a WS. You have to check it in
>> your Domain controller policy.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> myweb
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>>> Hmmm,
>>>
>>> Well, right now I am at home, so I don't have a Win2003 server in
>>> front of me, but I also would like DOS access to XP SP-2 machines,
>>> and I assumed I would find this setting in XP as well, but I do not.
>>>
>>> Where is this setting in XP?
>>>
>>> I am running gpedit.msc and am in:
>>>
>>> Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local
>>> Policies/Security Options
>>>
>>> Isn't this where I would find this?
>>>
>>> I don't see a reference to SMB in there...
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>
>>> myweb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Todd,
>>>>
>>>> Check yoor policy about SMB signing. IF it is enabled you must
>>>> disable it to use DOS boot disks. But SMB is designed for security
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> myweb
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>>> I've seen this question asked before, but frankly not one of the
>>>>> posts ever gave an answer that actually fixes the problem...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have need to access both Windows XP SP-2 workstations, and a
>>>>> Windows 2003 SP-1 server via a dos network boot disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I have already done this by using the IPX protocol. It works
>>>>> very well, and I can access both XP and 2003 server this way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem is, I need to redo the boot disk using IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I create the disk via IP, I am unable to access XP and
>>>>> 2003 machines. I can access Windows 2000 machines no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the some of the messages I've seen posted here, there was
>>>>> mention of security settings for 2003 that need to be changed, but
>>>>> with one exception, nobody has mentioned access to XP before.
>>>>>
>>>>> One person (called Oli) spoke of a setting in 2003 SP-1 policy,
>>>>> that needed to be set (Network Security: LAN Manager authenticaion
>>>>> level), and said it needed to be set to the same setting as XP to
>>>>> work (the setting in XP is "Send LM & NTLM responses", however,
>>>>> that setting as he stated being the default in XP does NOT allow
>>>>> DOS clients access.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I fail to see how changing this in 2003 SP-1 will work...
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anybody has any suggestions as to what I can do for both XP
>>>>> SP-2 and 2003 Sp-1 servers to allow DOS clients access via TCPIP,
>>>>> please send a reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Why does this work via the IPX protocol without the need to
>>>>> change any settings?
>>>>>



 
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