Ahh joys of ntl...

Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?

"Doz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?

I know a few on 10mb with Telewest.
Sposed to be 10mb, but only gettin 2mb.
Their network is stuffed.

"Doz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?

I rang last night to find out when my upgrade would be and the guy said "oh
I'm not sure but you'll have to ring us to be upgraded". "Are you sure" ? I
said, "yeah you'll have to ring us, let me check though". Then he comes back
and tells me it will be automatic but it wont happen until 2006 ????

Bulla

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:21:29 -0000, Bulla wrote:

> "Doz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1wd97ykufag28.deyfetxzk3x3$.(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?
>
> I rang last night to find out when my upgrade would be and the guy said "oh
> I'm not sure but you'll have to ring us to be upgraded". "Are you sure" ? I
> said, "yeah you'll have to ring us, let me check though". Then he comes back
> and tells me it will be automatic but it wont happen until 2006 ????
>
> Bulla

I upgraded online from 2mbit to the "3mbit" option and it comes back at 10mbit
upgrade. I know for sure it's new customers starters to have 10mbit and existing
customers to be rolled out in 2006. The speed will be the same for all but the
price difference is shown in the cap 2Mbit current price gets you 30gig and
current 3Mbit price gets you 75gig, all per month.

The upload speed is also boosted to 512k when on the 10Mbit.

So far so good.. very very fast. I get downloads from ftp and http at over 1
megabyte per second.

Doz

In article <dmjto9$uch$(E-Mail Removed)>, T o p @ S e c r e t . c o
m (Gøñzølã) wrote:
> > Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?
>
> I know a few on 10mb with Telewest.
> Sposed to be 10mb, but only gettin 2mb.
> Their network is stuffed.

Rubbish. I can get 10 Mbit from some web sites, it's not Telewest's
network that's the limit, it the internet in general that not yet caught
up with the high speeds cable modems can offer. Many sites
may be bandwidth limited, or simply running on 2 meg or slower leased
lines, some are on 256K ADSL lines so will give pathetic performance.

Telewest also has no bandwidth cap, unlike NTL, and it's cheaper.

Angus

"Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <dmjto9$uch$(E-Mail Removed)>, T o p @ S e c r e t . c
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> m (Gøñzølã) wrote:
> > > Anyone else on 10mbit cable ?
> >
> > I know a few on 10mb with Telewest.
> > Sposed to be 10mb, but only gettin 2mb.
> > Their network is stuffed.
>
> Rubbish. I can get 10 Mbit from some web sites,

Lucky you for livin in the Croydon part of their network.

> it's not Telewest's network that's the limit, it the internet in
general that not yet caught up with the high speeds cable modems can
offer.

It's not about 'limits' it's more to do with not bein able to get the
full speed even usin multiple connections.
They've rolled out a 10MB hastily, through fear of bein overtaken by
ADSL, but not fully testin the effects of a higher percentage of their
customers usin that limit.

So at peak times it can drop to sub-standard levels.
For a 'Cable' connection, that's pretty crap.

> Many sites may be bandwidth limited, or simply running on 2 meg or >
slower leased lines, some are on 256K ADSL lines so will give pathetic
performance.

See above...

> Telewest also has no bandwidth cap, unlike NTL, and it's cheaper.

But reliable they are not.

In article <1im691kbxzz0o.180cikg28qca1$.(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
> The upload speed is also boosted to 512k when on the 10Mbit.
>
Not very good compared to LLU ADSL speeds though

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:07:31 +0000, Doz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>I upgraded online from 2mbit to the "3mbit" option and it comes back at 10mbit
>upgrade. I know for sure it's new customers starters to have 10mbit and existing
>customers to be rolled out in 2006.

"m" means milli, so "10mbit" means 1 bit every 100 seconds...glad I'm
not on NTL.

Steve Pearce wrote:
> "m" means milli, so "10mbit" means 1 bit every 100 seconds...glad I'm
> not on NTL.

Oh Zarquon, don't get them started on mibibits and kibibits again...

I have enough of a problem around here with people using 'S' for seconds, an
some of them, when told that 'S' is not a suitable abbreviation for seconds say
'Do you want secs?'. Just don't even go there. =:-O

(For those who don't get the previous howler, 's' is SI unit of time and 'S' is
the SI unit of conductance (siemens). Any link between secs and siemens is left
as an exercise for readers with dirty minds)

In article <dmke3t$s3e$(E-Mail Removed)>, T o p @ S e c r e t . c
o m (Gøñzølã) wrote:

> It's not about 'limits' it's more to do with not bein able to get the
> full speed even usin multiple connections.
> They've rolled out a 10MB hastily, through fear of bein overtaken by
> ADSL, but not fully testin the effects of a higher percentage of their
> customers usin that limit.
>
> So at peak times it can drop to sub-standard levels.

Cable modems have contention, just like ADSL, although Telewest
certainly does not make it very obvious. So if it's 50:1 the 10 Mbit
would really mean 200 Kbit, but then my ADSL will be a few K at 50:1.

I've always got 10 Mbit when I've tested it to UK site, but only really
done large downloads from the USA where I regularly get 4 Mbit. But MRTG
shows my weekly and monthly average traffic at 40 Kbit, so I'm well
within reasonable contention.

Perhaps I'm lucky and few of my neighbours have cable modems.

> > Telewest also has no bandwidth cap, unlike NTL, and it's cheaper.
> But reliable they are not.

Telewest is reliable here, apart from announced downtime (which is rare),
I can only recall once in the last year it was down for a few hours, and
that was a localised issue.

Angus