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Clive
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      08-15-2006, 09:43 AM
I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!

I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for BT
(option 3). Why?

I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for an
ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
happening to Pipex.

Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).

Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I safer
(in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go bust, or
get taken over?

Clive


 
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Nicholas Thomas
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      08-15-2006, 10:01 AM
Clive blathered :-
> I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!
>
> I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
> reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for BT
> (option 3). Why?
>
> I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for an
> ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
> happening to Pipex.
>
> Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
> for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).
>
> Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I safer
> (in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go bust, or
> get taken over?
>
> Clive


Speculation is that in the mid- to long-term, BT will end up getting
eaten by Deutsche Telekom.

Personally, I wouldn't - my sister used to work in BT Broadband (the bit
that's not dealt with in Noida), which is possibly the most damning
indictment of their support possible. She's nice, but a complete luddite
. To her, 50:1 contention ratio meant that you could network 50 PCs to
the one ADSL connection...

xF,

....Nick


 
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Keith Willcocks
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      08-15-2006, 11:18 AM

"Nicholas Thomas" <ku.gro.snagap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:44e19b3f$0$633$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Clive blathered :-
>> I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!
>>
>> I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
>> reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for
>> BT
>> (option 3). Why?
>>
>> I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for
>> an
>> ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
>> happening to Pipex.
>>
>> Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
>> for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).
>>
>> Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I
>> safer
>> (in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go bust,
>> or
>> get taken over?
>>
>> Clive

>
> Speculation is that in the mid- to long-term, BT will end up getting
> eaten by Deutsche Telekom.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't - my sister used to work in BT Broadband (the bit
> that's not dealt with in Noida), which is possibly the most damning
> indictment of their support possible. She's nice, but a complete luddite
> . To her, 50:1 contention ratio meant that you could network 50 PCs to
> the one ADSL connection...
>


But she's left now, hasn't she. ;o)
--
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)


 
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      08-15-2006, 11:43 AM
Keith Willcocks blathered :-
> "Nicholas Thomas" <ku.gro.snagap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:44e19b3f$0$633$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Clive blathered :-
>>> I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!
>>>
>>> I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
>>> reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for
>>> BT
>>> (option 3). Why?
>>>
>>> I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for
>>> an
>>> ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
>>> happening to Pipex.
>>>
>>> Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
>>> for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).
>>>
>>> Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I
>>> safer
>>> (in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go bust,
>>> or
>>> get taken over?
>>>
>>> Clive

>> Speculation is that in the mid- to long-term, BT will end up getting
>> eaten by Deutsche Telekom.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn't - my sister used to work in BT Broadband (the bit
>> that's not dealt with in Noida), which is possibly the most damning
>> indictment of their support possible. She's nice, but a complete luddite
>> . To her, 50:1 contention ratio meant that you could network 50 PCs to
>> the one ADSL connection...
>>

>
> But she's left now, hasn't she. ;o)


True, but she was considered to be one of their *better* advisors...
 
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      08-15-2006, 12:45 PM

"Clive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!
>
> I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
> reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for
> BT (option 3). Why?
>
> I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for
> an ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
> happening to Pipex.
>
> Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
> for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).
>
> Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I
> safer (in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go
> bust, or get taken over?


I was with BT for a long time and never had a problem. The only real
problem is if you need to contact customer service. "Rachel" or "Robert"
based in India might or might not be knowledgeable but their accents were
sometimes very difficult to understand and led to confusing and frustrating
conversations.
I only left them to get a cheaper deal elsewhere.


 
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      08-15-2006, 01:09 PM


Beck wrote:

> "Clive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:44e1972d$0$2945$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I've just applied for a MC from Plusnet - no need to explain why!
> >
> > I've watching ADSLguide and Broadband newsgroups and despite all the good
> > reviews for ISP's such as ZEN, Nildram, IDnet, etc; I think I may go for
> > BT (option 3). Why?
> >
> > I joined Plusnet when THEY were considered one of the 'better' choice for
> > an ISP. An I think they became overwhelmed. I seem to remember the same
> > happening to Pipex.
> >
> > Judging by Plusnet newsgroups a lot of their customers seem to be heading
> > for one of the current 'top' performing ISP's (as above).
> >
> > Does this mean they in turn will turn into a Plusnet fiasco? And am I
> > safer (in the long run) going for BT - who are extremely unlikely to go
> > bust, or get taken over?

>
> I was with BT for a long time and never had a problem. The only real
> problem is if you need to contact customer service. "Rachel" or "Robert"
> based in India might or might not be knowledgeable but their accents were
> sometimes very difficult to understand and led to confusing and frustrating
> conversations.
> I only left them to get a cheaper deal elsewhere.


I do wish Indian call centres wouldn't use bogus names. It's so obvious ! And
yes, I've have trouble understanding them sometimes too despite having been to
India any times.

Graham


 
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      08-15-2006, 01:14 PM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed) > wrote in
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> I do wish Indian call centres wouldn't use bogus names. It's so obvious !
> And
> yes, I've have trouble understanding them sometimes too despite having
> been to
> India any times.


Yeah I would prefer it if they used their real names rather than a faked one
to please us. It makes no difference as to whether I can understand them or
not.


 
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George Weston
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      08-15-2006, 04:22 PM

"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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>
> I was with BT for a long time and never had a problem. The only real
> problem is if you need to contact customer service. "Rachel" or "Robert"
> based in India might or might not be knowledgeable but their accents were
> sometimes very difficult to understand and led to confusing and
> frustrating conversations.
> I only left them to get a cheaper deal elsewhere.


Snap!
I was about to write something very similar in reply but you said it all.
I'm now on the horns of a dilemma myself - not wanting to go back to BT
because of the awful chore when something goes wrong of having to translate
my everyday English idiom and regional accent into very slow and deliberate
"international English" when trying to get my point across to the
Bangalorees.
At the moment, Plusnet is still working for me but I'm dreading trying (and
probably failing) to get through to their new, super "hindrancedesk" if
something goes wrong.
Besides, my Plusnet monthly payment is around half of what I was paying to
BT for the same service.
What to do?
At the moment, I'm sticking my head in the sand...
George


 
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      08-15-2006, 04:28 PM

"George Weston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Snap!
> I was about to write something very similar in reply but you said it all.
> I'm now on the horns of a dilemma myself - not wanting to go back to BT
> because of the awful chore when something goes wrong of having to
> translate my everyday English idiom and regional accent into very slow and
> deliberate "international English" when trying to get my point across to
> the Bangalorees.
> At the moment, Plusnet is still working for me but I'm dreading trying
> (and probably failing) to get through to their new, super "hindrancedesk"
> if something goes wrong.
> Besides, my Plusnet monthly payment is around half of what I was paying to
> BT for the same service.
> What to do?
> At the moment, I'm sticking my head in the sand...


Well my Plusnet is also okay at the moment. If I wanted to leave I am still
in contract anyway so at the moment it is not an issue. While the service
is good for me then there is no reason for me to switch.


 
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Clive
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      08-15-2006, 06:00 PM

"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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>
> "George Weston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Snap!
>> I was about to write something very similar in reply but you said it all.
>> I'm now on the horns of a dilemma myself - not wanting to go back to BT
>> because of the awful chore when something goes wrong of having to
>> translate my everyday English idiom and regional accent into very slow
>> and deliberate "international English" when trying to get my point across
>> to the Bangalorees.
>> At the moment, Plusnet is still working for me but I'm dreading trying
>> (and probably failing) to get through to their new, super "hindrancedesk"
>> if something goes wrong.
>> Besides, my Plusnet monthly payment is around half of what I was paying
>> to BT for the same service.
>> What to do?
>> At the moment, I'm sticking my head in the sand...

>
> Well my Plusnet is also okay at the moment. If I wanted to leave I am
> still in contract anyway so at the moment it is not an issue. While the
> service is good for me then there is no reason for me to switch.

Check the terms and conditions - you will still have to pay Plusnet to
leave - even after 12months (see my other post today).

Clive


 
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