Advise needed on adding wireless access

I currently have a fixed wired installation at home. The broadband
comes via a cable modem which is attached to a NAT router which then
carries connections to various rooms in the house. There are a couple
of Windows desktop machines and a Linux web/file/mail server connected
at all times. I've configured the NAT router so that only the web &
mailservers are open to the outside world.

The wife now wants WiFi - not just for ourselves, but to allow visitors
to surf on their own PCs.

Now, if I just attach a wireless access point to the NAT router, I'm
going to make all our internal windows/samba shares visible to any
attached computer, right? (The samba shares are all user/password
protected, the windows shares I'm not too sure about). Plus I don't
like the idea of our internal network traffic being potentially
sniffable.

But if I put another NAT router between the cable modem and the
existing NAT router, and attach the wireless access point to this (the
new NAT router) then I've screwed any chance of share access to our own
(non-visitor) wireless PCs.

So, what's the solution here? Do I need 2 wireless access points? One
for internal users and one for visitors? Or is there some fancy
technology to let me achieve what I want with just the one?

Thanks in advance for all advice.

Best regards, Ralph.

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> Now, if I just attach a wireless access point to the NAT router, I'm
> going to make all our internal windows/samba shares visible to any
> attached computer, right? (The samba shares are all user/password
> protected, the windows shares I'm not too sure about). Plus I don't
> like the idea of our internal network traffic being potentially
> sniffable.
>
> But if I put another NAT router between the cable modem and the
> existing NAT router, and attach the wireless access point to this (the
> new NAT router) then I've screwed any chance of share access to our own
> (non-visitor) wireless PCs.
>
> So, what's the solution here? Do I need 2 wireless access points? One
> for internal users and one for visitors? Or is there some fancy
> technology to let me achieve what I want with just the one?
>
> Thanks in advance for all advice.

THe "double NAT" way is frought with problems. Change your router for
something like a F5D7230-4 Belkin Wireless Router with 4 LAN ports. The
Belkin router allows you to set access/deny by IP address for all
services individually.

Mine does it on:

WWW HTTP, TCP Port 80, 3128, 8000, 8080, 8001
E-mail Sending SMTP, TCP Port 25
News Forums NNTP, TCP Port 119
E-mail Receiving POP3, TCP Port 110
Secure HTTP HTTPS, TCP Port 443
File Transfer FTP, TCP Port 21
MSN Messenger TCP Port 1863
Telnet Service TCP Port 23
AIM AOL Instant Messenger, TCP Port 5190
NetMeeting H.323, TCP Port 1720
DNS UDP Port 53
SNMP UDP Port 161, 162
VPN-PPTP TCP Port 1723
VPN-L2TP UDP Port 1701
TCP All TCP Port
UDP All UDP Port

...as well as user defined ports.

--
Conor

Windows & Outlook/OE in particular, shipped with settings making them
as open to entry as a starlet in a porno. Steve B

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I currently have a fixed wired installation at home. The broadband
> comes via a cable modem which is attached to a NAT router which then
> carries connections to various rooms in the house. There are a couple
> of Windows desktop machines and a Linux web/file/mail server connected
> at all times. I've configured the NAT router so that only the web &
> mailservers are open to the outside world.
>
> The wife now wants WiFi - not just for ourselves, but to allow visitors
> to surf on their own PCs.
>
> Now, if I just attach a wireless access point to the NAT router, I'm
> going to make all our internal windows/samba shares visible to any
> attached computer, right? (The samba shares are all user/password
> protected, the windows shares I'm not too sure about). Plus I don't
> like the idea of our internal network traffic being potentially
> sniffable.
>
> But if I put another NAT router between the cable modem and the
> existing NAT router, and attach the wireless access point to this (the
> new NAT router) then I've screwed any chance of share access to our own
> (non-visitor) wireless PCs.
>
> So, what's the solution here? Do I need 2 wireless access points? One
> for internal users and one for visitors? Or is there some fancy
> technology to let me achieve what I want with just the one?
>
> Thanks in advance for all advice.
>
> Best regards, Ralph.
>
1 WAP
1 Router
Give all home users Static IP's, allow DHCP for visitors over small IP
range.
S/ware firewalls on all Home machines with home users in a "Trusted"
zone which allows sharing and all other IP's in a "Blocked" zone.
Make sure wireless system is encrypted and "Key" is changed frequently
(bear in mind that visitors allowed to use your network will have it's
details stored on their machines when they leave)
Make sure all "Shares" are password protected.

NBT