ADSLMax: Training period

Will be moving over to ADSLMax Broadband next week, and have noticed that
for the first 10 days the router/modem should be left 'on' all day, so
that the optimum sync speed can be established.

Neophyte question: Does that training period also need the PC to be
'on', or is the whole thing just between the router/modem (Netgear DG834G)
and the telephone system?

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Maurice Batey wrote:

> Will be moving over to ADSLMax Broadband next week, and have noticed that
> for the first 10 days the router/modem should be left 'on' all day, so
> that the optimum sync speed can be established.
>
> Neophyte question: Does that training period also need the PC to be
> 'on', or is the whole thing just between the router/modem (Netgear DG834G)
> and the telephone system?

Just the router needs to be on.

From my experience, I'd expect you to have a good idea of what your rate's
likely to be after about 4 days.

Graham

In uk.telecom.broadband, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:19:12, Maurice Batey
wrote:

>Will be moving over to ADSLMax Broadband next week, and have noticed that
>for the first 10 days the router/modem should be left 'on' all day, so
>that the optimum sync speed can be established.
>
>Neophyte question: Does that training period also need the PC to be
>'on', or is the whole thing just between the router/modem (Netgear DG834G)
>and the telephone system?
>

Just the router. Set it up and then forget it.

--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:26:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

> Just the router needs to be on.

Thank you Graham (& Jim)

Next neophyte question:

I understand that the connection is initialised by going into a
browser and entering username/password/IP address given by ISP.

Does this set just the router up, or the operating system?

If the latter, then as I run both WinXP & Linux I presumably need to do
it in both?

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In uk.telecom.broadband, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:53:02, Maurice Batey
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:26:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> Just the router needs to be on.
>
>Thank you Graham (& Jim)
>
>Next neophyte question:
>
> I understand that the connection is initialised by going into a
> browser and entering username/password/IP address given by ISP.
>
> Does this set just the router up, or the operating system?
>
> If the latter, then as I run both WinXP & Linux I presumably need to do
> it in both?

There is a web-server contained in the router, and it is this that the
browser connects to - you are just setting up the router.

Both operating systems should have suitable TCP/IP settings etc, but
that's a different matter entirely. Most home installations use the
defaults quite happily.

--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

Maurice Batey wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
> > Just the router needs to be on.
>
> Thank you Graham (& Jim)
>
> Next neophyte question:
>
> I understand that the connection is initialised by going into a
> browser and entering username/password/IP address given by ISP.

Correct.


> Does this set just the router up, or the operating system?

You're merely giving the router the info it needs to pass to the kit on the
other end of the line to establish a PPP connection. It has nothing at all to do
with operating systems, firmware or software in any way at all. It's simply some
alphanumeric characters that unlock an electronic door so to speak.


> If the latter, then as I run both WinXP & Linux I presumably need to do
> it in both?

NO. Once again this has nothing to do with any software or operating system on
your PC. once the router's been given that info, it works away merrily on its
own. This isn't true for the typical cheap USB ADSL modem though.

Graham

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> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:26:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> Just the router needs to be on.
>
> Thank you Graham (& Jim)
>
> Next neophyte question:
>
> I understand that the connection is initialised by going into a
> browser and entering username/password/IP address given by ISP.
>
> Does this set just the router up, or the operating system?
>
> If the latter, then as I run both WinXP & Linux I presumably need to do
> it in both?

You've completely misunderstood the concepts of "router" and "operating
system".

The router implements your internet connection. It is entirely independent
of the computer you use. It connects to your computer by Ethernet (or the
wireless equivalent). The router has a user interface accessible via the
ethernet connection.

The operating system is what makes your computer work. By default (i.e. out
of the box) Windows will know how to communicate with the router. You might
have to tell Linux, but if you are using Linux I would expect you to know
how to do this. Put simply, the computer asks the router for an IP address
for itself, and learns the IP address of the router, using the DHCP
protocol.

Your computer can tell you the IP address of the "default gateway" (i.e. the
router). (Run IPCONFIG /ALL from the command line in Windows. IFCONFIG or
something similar in Linux). Using your computer you can communicate with
the router (typically using a web browser) and tell the router what username
and password to use for the connection to your ISP. It doesn't matter which
computer you use to do this - it only has to be done once.

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Graham J

Eeyore wrote:

> Maurice Batey wrote:
>
> > Will be moving over to ADSLMax Broadband next week, and have noticed that
> > for the first 10 days the router/modem should be left 'on' all day, so
> > that the optimum sync speed can be established.
> >
> > Neophyte question: Does that training period also need the PC to be
> > 'on', or is the whole thing just between the router/modem (Netgear DG834G)
> > and the telephone system?
>
> Just the router needs to be on.
>
> From my experience, I'd expect you to have a good idea of what your rate's
> likely to be after about 4 days.

Here's a real example (in reverse order)

22/05/07 06:07 5513.14 Kbps
19/05/07 23:40 3932.54 Kbps
16/05/07 16:58 942.33 Kbps

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:02:03 +0100, Graham wrote:

> It doesn't matter which computer you use to do this - it only has to be
> done once.

Thanks, Graham.

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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:51:47 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

> You're merely giving the router the info it needs to pass to the kit on
> the other end of the line to establish a PPP connection.

As I suspected. Was just checking. Many thanks!

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