ADSL2+ Speeds

Hi, im currently on an up-to 8Mb service with Virgin Media (ADSL, not
ADSL2+) & am getting speeds of 3.5 - 4Mb.

Just contacted Another provider who has LLU in my area & are offering
speeds up-to 16Mb, and they advised me the best speed i can get
through there ADSL2+ is only 2Mb!!!

WTF??? lol, can someone please tell me how/why??

I though ADSL2+ / LLU was meant to make speeds faster??

Cheers

On 12/07/2007 16:57, Xeonwales wrote:

> I though ADSL2+ / LLU was meant to make speeds faster??

The ADSL2+ speeds advantage rapidly drops off with long distance lines.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:57:20 -0700, Xeonwales <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Hi, im currently on an up-to 8Mb service with Virgin Media (ADSL, not
>ADSL2+) & am getting speeds of 3.5 - 4Mb.
>
>Just contacted Another provider who has LLU in my area & are offering
>speeds up-to 16Mb, and they advised me the best speed i can get
>through there ADSL2+ is only 2Mb!!!
>
>WTF??? lol, can someone please tell me how/why??
>
>I though ADSL2+ / LLU was meant to make speeds faster??
>
>Cheers

I have just had a similar experience, it appears that the LLU
providers base their guess of connection speed on an estimate of your
distance from the exchange, supplied to them by BT. In some cases this
seems to be wildly inaccurate, in my case by a factor of 5.

On 12 Jul, 18:05, Digby <a> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:57:20 -0700, Xeonwales <cpritchar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi, im currently on an up-to 8Mb service with Virgin Media (ADSL, not
> >ADSL2+) & am getting speeds of 3.5 - 4Mb.
>
> >Just contacted Another provider who has LLU in my area & are offering
> >speeds up-to 16Mb, and they advised me the best speed i can get
> >through there ADSL2+ is only 2Mb!!!
>
> >WTF??? lol, can someone please tell me how/why??
>
> >I though ADSL2+ / LLU was meant to make speeds faster??
>
> >Cheers
>
> I have just had a similar experience, it appears that the LLU
> providers base their guess of connection speed on an estimate of your
> distance from the exchange, supplied to them by BT. In some cases this
> seems to be wildly inaccurate, in my case by a factor of 5.

So, you get a better than expected speed??? or worse??

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:43:28 -0700, Xeonwales <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On 12 Jul, 18:05, Digby <a> wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:57:20 -0700, Xeonwales <cpritchar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi, im currently on an up-to 8Mb service with Virgin Media (ADSL, not
>> >ADSL2+) & am getting speeds of 3.5 - 4Mb.
>>
>> >Just contacted Another provider who has LLU in my area & are offering
>> >speeds up-to 16Mb, and they advised me the best speed i can get
>> >through there ADSL2+ is only 2Mb!!!
>>
>> >WTF??? lol, can someone please tell me how/why??
>>
>> >I though ADSL2+ / LLU was meant to make speeds faster??
>>
>> >Cheers
>>
>> I have just had a similar experience, it appears that the LLU
>> providers base their guess of connection speed on an estimate of your
>> distance from the exchange, supplied to them by BT. In some cases this
>> seems to be wildly inaccurate, in my case by a factor of 5.
>
>So, you get a better than expected speed??? or worse??

Better I hope, I'm 750metres from the exchange and sync at 8128/448 on
ADSL max, LLU estimate was 3600 metres and 3Mbps.

> Better I hope, I'm 750metres from the exchange and sync at 8128/448 on
> ADSL max, LLU estimate was 3600 metres and 3Mbps.

What are your line stats ?

FWIW i'm about 3km from the exchange, 51dB with wildly variable noise
margins (from about 4.2-10.5dB) - I typically connect from 6300kbps -
7200kbps, and regularly hit 650-780k/sec downstream

"Xeonwales" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> WTF??? lol,
>
<cringe>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:20:50 +0100, Colin Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed) o.uk> wrote:

>> Better I hope, I'm 750metres from the exchange and sync at 8128/448 on
>> ADSL max, LLU estimate was 3600 metres and 3Mbps.
>
>What are your line stats ?
>
>FWIW i'm about 3km from the exchange, 51dB with wildly variable noise
>margins (from about 4.2-10.5dB) - I typically connect from 6300kbps -
>7200kbps, and regularly hit 650-780k/sec downstream

SNR Margin 14dB - Attenuation 19.5dB steady at that 24/7, and
touching wood now

> >FWIW i'm about 3km from the exchange, 51dB with wildly variable noise
> >margins (from about 4.2-10.5dB) - I typically connect from 6300kbps -
> >7200kbps, and regularly hit 650-780k/sec downstream
> SNR Margin 14dB - Attenuation 19.5dB steady at that 24/7, and
> touching wood now

Hopefully your speeds will rock then (jammy bastard :-p)

If you're going with Sky, it sounds like you'd be close to the maximum
offered speed (going by the connection speed graph on the Be forums)

http://www.dontbethere.co.uk/forum/d...spx?f=2&m=3875

I'm with Bethere (LLU ADSL2+)

I'm 500m from the exchange and get 1,213up / 19,978down - 2.10MB/s in
real terms.

When I signed up, they were pretty much spot on with the estimate of
the speed I'd get.

Try another provider?