ADSL Speed

All the BT based products are 256kbps upstream. ADSL is capable of 1Mbps
upstream - does anyone out there, except me, think that higher upload speeds
would be an advantage - for webhosting, VPN etc.

Your thoughts

Cheers

Nick

Nick Shaw wrote:
> All the BT based products are 256kbps upstream. ADSL is capable of 1Mbps
> upstream - does anyone out there, except me, think that higher upload speeds
> would be an advantage - for webhosting, VPN etc.

Yes, and there are SDSL products available already - these clearly offer
higher upload speeds.

"Hiram Hackenbacker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Nick Shaw wrote:
>> All the BT based products are 256kbps upstream. ADSL is capable of 1Mbps
>> upstream - does anyone out there, except me, think that higher upload
>> speeds would be an advantage - for webhosting, VPN etc.
>
> Yes, and there are SDSL products available already - these clearly offer
> higher upload speeds.

And have you seen the price of SDSL! My current connection is 2M/256k - it
just seems unbalanced that the upstream does not increase when the
downstream does. I was thinking more of 2M/512k, still ADSL but with a bit
more upstream.

Cheers

Nick

Nick Shaw wrote:
> And have you seen the price of SDSL! My current connection is 2M/256k - it
> just seems unbalanced that the upstream does not increase when the
> downstream does. I was thinking more of 2M/512k, still ADSL but with a bit
> more upstream.

Nick,

Your best choice is getting a LLU operator to provide the ADSL (of
course, the proviso is that your exchange is LLU'ed!!). Even then,
though, the most your really looking at is 400k (Bulldog, and UKOnline).

--
Andy M Jenkins
http://www.uk-bug.net The UK Broadband Usergroup

Nick Shaw wrote:

> And have you seen the price of SDSL!

Of course! you wouldn't want to eat into the profits BT makes from
leased lines would you? :-P

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:00:08 +0000, Andy M Jenkins
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Even then,
>though, the most your really looking at is 400k

or bond two standard 1M ADSL services to get 2M/512k
not cheap, £100-150/month at a guess.

server hosting is best done in datacentres, not on the end of an ADSL
line. Still there is a need for higher upstream for video
conferencing, VoIP, sending big emails fast etc.

Phil
--
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Come on down !

"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:00:08 +0000, Andy M Jenkins
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Even then,
>>though, the most your really looking at is 400k
>
> or bond two standard 1M ADSL services to get 2M/512k
> not cheap, £100-150/month at a guess.
>
> server hosting is best done in datacentres, not on the end of an ADSL
> line. Still there is a need for higher upstream for video
> conferencing, VoIP, sending big emails fast etc.
>
> Phil
> --
> spamcop.net address commissioned 18/06/04
> Come on down !

Bonding of two 1Mbps lines is something I've been thinking of. ATM I'm using
a 20:1 2Mpbs/256kbps at £65 a month. You can get a 50:1 1Mpbs/256kbps
connection for £30 a month. Two of those gives you 2M/0.5M for £60. But then
you have to have another line at £10 per month. There are reasonably priced
load balancing routers around, but most need two ADSL/Ethenet modems as
well.

So it is getting near being economic - but not quite yet.

Cheers

Nick

Nick Shaw wrote:

>
> "Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:00:08 +0000, Andy M Jenkins
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >>Even then,
> >>though, the most your really looking at is 400k
> >
> > or bond two standard 1M ADSL services to get 2M/512k
> > not cheap, £100-150/month at a guess.
> >
> > server hosting is best done in datacentres, not on the end of an ADSL
> > line. Still there is a need for higher upstream for video
> > conferencing, VoIP, sending big emails fast etc.
> >
> > Phil
> > --
> > spamcop.net address commissioned 18/06/04
> > Come on down !
>
> Bonding of two 1Mbps lines is something I've been thinking of. ATM I'm
> using a 20:1 2Mpbs/256kbps at £65 a month. You can get a 50:1
> 1Mpbs/256kbps connection for £30 a month. Two of those gives you 2M/0.5M
> for £60. But then you have to have another line at £10 per month. There
> are reasonably priced load balancing routers around, but most need two
> ADSL/Ethenet modems as well.
>
> So it is getting near being economic - but not quite yet.

Real multilink ppp is better that load balancing if you can afford it and
nildram still do it.

As for routers - what more could you ask for : Qos/traffic control, state
of the art well maintained firewall / NAT -

http://www.freestuffjunction.co.uk/bondedadsl.shtml

Andy.

On 24 Nov 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Phil Thompson wrote:

>or bond two standard 1M ADSL services to get 2M/512k not cheap,
>£100-150/month at a guess.

Not sure where that figure comes from ... MetroNet's 1 Mbps fee is
a pretty low 28.75 inc VAT (per line) so 50ish +VAT maybe ?

>server hosting is best done in datacentres,

indeed. I find it odd that a survey on the Plus.Net site shows a
63% interest in SDSL for business... 3 and 4 % for not sure then
30% with not required. Unless they're using VoIP and Video there
seems to be some other 'killer application' they want to use :-)

>sending big emails fast etc.

I guess it depends on the size, but a dedicated ADSL for just the
mail server is working well for one of my clients... they have 2
ISPs so if one was having major problems they could switch easily
by changing the router IP addresses over... Peter M.


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PlusNet <http://tinyurl.com/24ymz> - I recommend them and save some cash.

On 25 Nov 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Andy Furniss wrote:

>http://www.freestuffjunction.co.uk/bondedadsl.shtml

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm currently using a couple of ethernet
routers and fixing routes within individual PCs so most goes via B
but some is routed through A... not as neat, but very cheap :-)