ADSL router for multi-NAT

I want an ADSL router with multi-NAT. The Vigor 2800 seems to be
the obvious choice, but it's a little expensive. Are their any
alternatives that are known to work reliably? I currently have a
Speedtouch 510v4 which claims to have multi-NAT, but I can't get it
to work and as far as I can tell nor can anyone else.

-- Richard

In article <egbuaf$1a03$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> I want an ADSL router with multi-NAT. The Vigor 2800 seems to be
> the obvious choice, but it's a little expensive. Are their any
> alternatives that are known to work reliably? I currently have a
> Speedtouch 510v4 which claims to have multi-NAT, but I can't get it
> to work and as far as I can tell nor can anyone else.
>
> -- Richard
>
>
I'm using a Zyxel P662HW quite happily in multi-NAT.

On 8 Oct 2006 22:32:47 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

>I want an ADSL router with multi-NAT. The Vigor 2800 seems to be
>the obvious choice, but it's a little expensive. Are their any
>alternatives that are known to work reliably? I currently have a
>Speedtouch 510v4 which claims to have multi-NAT, but I can't get it
>to work and as far as I can tell nor can anyone else.
>
>-- Richard

I have been using a Vigor 2600+ for a year _very_ successfully. I had
to reluctantly replace it _only_ because I needed a single box with
integrated VoIP, so it's available for sale.

If you want it, email me with an offer at

usenet
at
lorenz
dot
clara
dot
co
dot
uk

Lorenz

[L.]

On 8 Oct 2006 22:32:47 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

>I want an ADSL router with multi-NAT. The Vigor 2800 seems to be
>the obvious choice, but it's a little expensive. Are their any
>alternatives that are known to work reliably? I currently have a
>Speedtouch 510v4 which claims to have multi-NAT, but I can't get it
>to work and as far as I can tell nor can anyone else.
>
>-- Richard

Richard,

What firmware version are you running on your 510v4? There is the
x.2.7 type interface and the x.3.2.6 type user interface available
which look and behave quite differently.

If is the older x.2.7 interface then the following shows you what to
do - you must set the interface to the PPP interface (not LAN) and use
the multi-NAT screen.

http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/pdf/Man...1.0_public.pdf

If it is the newer interface you will have to use the CLI via
telnet...

=>:nat mapadd intf=ppp_pppoa type=nat outside_addr=20.0.0.[1-2]
inside_addr=192.168.1.[64-65]

replace ppp_pppoa with what ever the PPP interface is called.

This will work with the older firmware too.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
moonshine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

Thanks for your help...

>What firmware version are you running on your 510v4? There is the
>x.2.7 type interface and the x.3.2.6 type user interface available
>which look and behave quite differently.

4.2.7.16.0

>If is the older x.2.7 interface then the following shows you what to
>do - you must set the interface to the PPP interface (not LAN) and use
>the multi-NAT screen.
>
>http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/pdf/Man...1.0_public.pdf

Unfortunately that seems to be describing the Microsoft Windows tool -
I don't have Windows.

>If it is the newer interface you will have to use the CLI via
>telnet...
>
>=>:nat mapadd intf=ppp_pppoa type=nat outside_addr=20.0.0.[1-2]
>inside_addr=192.168.1.[64-65]
>
>replace ppp_pppoa with what ever the PPP interface is called.
>
>This will work with the older firmware too.

My version of the firmware doesn't have "nat mapadd", but it has
"nat multinatadd". So I tried

nat multinatadd intf=PPPoA_1 inside_addr=10.168.1.9 outside_addr=xx.xx.xx.xx addroute=yes

but it doesn't work. I can ping out and in but I can't make any real
connections to or from the 10.168.1.9 machine.

Investigating a little more, NTP appears to work - perhaps UDP works
but TCP doesn't? A NAT entry seems to have been automatically created
for the NTP port, but no mapping gets created when I try, say, ssh.

Any suggestions welcome.

-- Richard

On 9 Oct 2006 23:37:48 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>moonshine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>Thanks for your help...
>
>>What firmware version are you running on your 510v4? There is the
>>x.2.7 type interface and the x.3.2.6 type user interface available
>>which look and behave quite differently.
>
>4.2.7.16.0
>
>>If is the older x.2.7 interface then the following shows you what to
>>do - you must set the interface to the PPP interface (not LAN) and use
>>the multi-NAT screen.
>>
>>http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/pdf/Man...1.0_public.pdf
>
>Unfortunately that seems to be describing the Microsoft Windows tool -
>I don't have Windows.

Its only a small section - but it is shown using any web browser. In
adavnced i think it is - there is a page that shows multi-nat. You
need to change the dropdown to the PPP interface - like you have typed
in telnet.
>
>>If it is the newer interface you will have to use the CLI via
>>telnet...
>>
>>=>:nat mapadd intf=ppp_pppoa type=nat outside_addr=20.0.0.[1-2]
>>inside_addr=192.168.1.[64-65]
>>
>>replace ppp_pppoa with what ever the PPP interface is called.
>>
>>This will work with the older firmware too.
>
>My version of the firmware doesn't have "nat mapadd", but it has
>"nat multinatadd". So I tried
>
> nat multinatadd intf=PPPoA_1 inside_addr=10.168.1.9 outside_addr=xx.xx.xx.xx addroute=yes
>
>but it doesn't work. I can ping out and in but I can't make any real
>connections to or from the 10.168.1.9 machine.
>
>Investigating a little more, NTP appears to work - perhaps UDP works
>but TCP doesn't? A NAT entry seems to have been automatically created
>for the NTP port, but no mapping gets created when I try, say, ssh.
>
>Any suggestions welcome.

2 things to try...

Disconnect and reconnect the PPP session.

Disable the firewall. That is in the IP section. something like...

:ip config firewalling off


>
>-- Richard

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:13:54 GMT, Mugwump <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <egbuaf$1a03$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed) says...
>> I want an ADSL router with multi-NAT. The Vigor 2800 seems to be
>> the obvious choice, but it's a little expensive. Are their any
>> alternatives that are known to work reliably? I currently have a
>> Speedtouch 510v4 which claims to have multi-NAT, but I can't get it
>> to work and as far as I can tell nor can anyone else.
>>
>> -- Richard
>>
>>
>I'm using a Zyxel P662HW quite happily in multi-NAT.

The Zyxel 660H claims to have multi-NAT, but I don't need this so
haven't actually tested it. At about £45 they are a bargain IMHO.

Mark

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
moonshine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> nat multinatadd intf=PPPoA_1 inside_addr=10.168.1.9
>outside_addr=xx.xx.xx.xx addroute=yes
>>
>>but it doesn't work. I can ping out and in but I can't make any real
>>connections to or from the 10.168.1.9 machine.

>2 things to try...
>
>Disconnect and reconnect the PPP session.
>
>Disable the firewall. That is in the IP section. something like...
>
>:ip config firewalling off

Thanks, but those didn't help.

I suppose I could try installing the 4.3.2.6 firmware, but I thought
that was just supposed to change the interface.

-- Richard