ADSL Recomendation?

hi,

I'm a loyal ntl user since I had broadband. moved down to Leicester for
work and need a new set up. Can't get ntl, cable or Sky. i did try and go
with bulldog but they've apparently got horrible customer services and
fucked up my credit card before it even let me order (kept declining my card
and then was charging me anyway)

So I've booked BT to install an ADSL line next week and then just need to
decide on a provider.

I'm looking for at least 8meg, unlimited bandwidth/unmetered at around £30
to £40 a month.

no need for domains or e-mails boxes or usenet access. I need a modem
included but have a router.

Anything else is a bonus.

Any recomendations would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris

Hi,

Did you check http://www.getbroadband-online.co.uk/ yet? Hoping this
helps...pappa

Major ChrisB wrote:
> hi,
>
> I'm a loyal ntl user since I had broadband. moved down to Leicester for
> work and need a new set up. Can't get ntl, cable or Sky. i did try and go
> with bulldog but they've apparently got horrible customer services and
> fucked up my credit card before it even let me order (kept declining my card
> and then was charging me anyway)
>
> So I've booked BT to install an ADSL line next week and then just need to
> decide on a provider.
>
> I'm looking for at least 8meg, unlimited bandwidth/unmetered at around £30
> to £40 a month.
>
> no need for domains or e-mails boxes or usenet access. I need a modem
> included but have a router.
>
> Anything else is a bonus.
>
> Any recomendations would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris

Major ChrisB wrote:

> So I've booked BT to install an ADSL line next week

It's just an ordinary phone line !


> and then just need to
> decide on a provider.
>
> I'm looking for at least 8meg, unlimited bandwidth/unmetered at around £30
> to £40 a month.
>
> no need for domains or e-mails boxes or usenet access. I need a modem
> included but have a router.

Why do you need a modem ? They're often thrown in to entice you to join the
poorer ISPs. The really good ones almost never offer freebies. You're better off
with an ADSL router modem ( ethernet ) anyway and they don't cost much.

How unlimited does it need to be ? Do you need 100s of GB or will 20, 30, 50 or
60GB do you ?

http://idnet.net/broadband/default.jsp
http://www.zenbroadband.com/athome.aspx

Compare them to *any* other provider here
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/compare.html

Graham

Eeyore wrote in message
(E-Mail Removed):

> Why do you need a modem ? They're often thrown in to entice you to
> join the poorer ISPs. The really good ones almost never offer
> freebies. You're better off with an ADSL router modem ( ethernet )
> anyway and they don't cost much.

I had a bad experience which makes my recommend that customers take the
modem that their ISP is offering, even if they are planning to buy a router.

One of my customers with Wanadoo opted for no modem because I was buying him
a router. Having installed the router, there was no detectable ADSL carrier.
Same with my own router. Swapped socket-to-wall cable and microfilter. But
because it was a third-party router rather than their own modem, they did
not take the problem seriously and send a BT Broadband engineer to test the
signal as received at the master socket - I must have told the Indian
call-centre staff till I was blue in the face that the problem happened with
more than one router, but they still said "It's not one of our modems, so
the problem must lie with the router".

So I'd say "get a modem as a diagnostic device". That way, if there's a
problem, you can say truthfully that you've tried with the modem that they
supplied - maybe then the ISP will take the fault report seriously.

Martin Underwood wrote:

> I must have told the Indian
> call-centre staff till I was blue in the face that the problem happened with
> more than one router, but they still said "It's not one of our modems, so
> the problem must lie with the router".

That won't happen with either of the ISPs I suggested.

I now know some of Idnet's staff by their first names ! And they're not in India
either. When you phone up they also tend to know who you are even !

Graham

Eeyore wrote:

> Major ChrisB wrote:
>
> > So I've booked BT to install an ADSL line next week
>
> It's just an ordinary phone line !
>
>
> > and then just need to
> > decide on a provider.
> >
> > I'm looking for at least 8meg, unlimited bandwidth/unmetered at around £30
> > to £40 a month.
> >
> > no need for domains or e-mails boxes or usenet access. I need a modem
> > included but have a router.
>
> Why do you need a modem ? They're often thrown in to entice you to join the
> poorer ISPs. The really good ones almost never offer freebies. You're better off
> with an ADSL router modem ( ethernet ) anyway and they don't cost much.
>
> How unlimited does it need to be ? Do you need 100s of GB or will 20, 30,50 or
> 60GB do you ?
>
> http://idnet.net/broadband/default.jsp
> http://www.zenbroadband.com/athome.aspx
>
> Compare them to *any* other provider here
> http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/compare.html
>


I really need truly unlimited connection. I listen to high quality
streaming radio from the states plus download loads of TV shows and
easily could hit 100gig a month.

>From looking at Thinkbroadband I'm thinking of Eclipse. They look to
be pretty well recomended from that site.

Does anyone have any experience with them? They do a priority
connection where band 2 gets priority over band 1 but band 3 and 4 are
priority over band 2. I'm just wondering if I signed up on band 2 how
often my connection would be limited, bearing in mind most of my
downloading is daytime so not during their peak hours?

Chris

wrote


>
> I really need truly unlimited connection. I listen to high quality
> streaming radio from the states plus download loads of TV shows and
> easily could hit 100gig a month.

Look at the Enta.net resellers. http://www.ukfsn.org/ for example


> >From looking at Thinkbroadband I'm thinking of Eclipse. They look to
> be pretty well recomended from that site.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with them? They do a priority
> connection where band 2 gets priority over band 1 but band 3 and 4 are
> priority over band 2. I'm just wondering if I signed up on band 2 how
> often my connection would be limited, bearing in mind most of my
> downloading is daytime so not during their peak hours?
>

Eclipse have taken the pusnet route to control their users bandwidth.
Don't waste your time with them.

On 12 Jan 2007, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>>From looking at Thinkbroadband I'm thinking of Eclipse.

>Does anyone have any experience with them? They do a priority
>connection where band 2 gets priority over band 1 but band 3 and 4 are
>priority over band 2. I'm just wondering if I signed up on band 2 how
>often my connection would be limited, bearing in mind most of my
>downloading is daytime so not during their peak hours?

Personally I'm on level 1 and have no problems, but I'm likely to be
in the sub-45 GB a month level, if not lower. I think if you're after
100+ then going for level 3 or (even) level 4 given you expect to d/l
a lot, could suit you, else they may think you're taking the mickey.

I've been with them for several months (6+) now, watch streaming video
services and download podcasts, use newsgroups, file sharing, etc. It
is worth pointing out that www.dslzoneuk.net shows Eclipse nearly at
the bottom of their ratings list, which I assume is making lots of
heavy downloaders ignore them. Fine by me, as it means they're not
having to bump up charges, but you might want to try someone with
no 12 month contract as you are in the heavier user category!

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Eeyore
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>I now know some of Idnet's staff by their first names ! And they're not
>in India either. When you phone up they also tend to know who you are
>even !

that's not difficult - Orange do that, based on your presented no. and
some software

--
dave @ stejonda

"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

> Eeyore <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >I now know some of Idnet's staff by their first names ! And they're not
> >in India either. When you phone up they also tend to know who you are
> >even !
>
> that's not difficult - Orange do that, based on your presented no. and
> some software

But do they actually *know* you ?

Graham