From ADSL Modem to Router in one easy move, yes or no.

I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have been
having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a
telephone call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound
in some of my voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot),
and want to change to a Router for my one PC. I have had recommendations
for D-Link and various other Routers but now need to know the best one
to get, (cost immaterial), as I need a really good and stable
connection. Also, how easy is it to change?
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Derrick Fawsitt

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:20:04 +0000, Derrick Fawsitt wrote:

> I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have been
> having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a telephone
> call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound in some of my
> voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot), and want to
> change to a Router for my one PC. I have had recommendations for D-Link
> and various other Routers but now need to know the best one to get, (cost
> immaterial), as I need a really good and stable connection. Also, how easy
> is it to change?

Do you know there are firmware upgrades for the Binatone. There have
problems with Fujitsu Dslams in BT exchanges when they are upgraded.

Dave
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In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Derrick Fawsitt
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have been
>having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a
>telephone call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound
>in some of my voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot),
Variable quality is not necessarily the fault of the modem or your
connection, could just be net congestion, a problem with the other end
of the conversation, a process on your machine hogging CPU cycles for a
second or your ISP, it could be a combination of all the above or it
could, indeed, be the modem. You'd need to isolate the cause or you
could spend a lot of money and gain no improvement.
>and want to change to a Router for my one PC. I have had
>recommendations for D-Link and various other Routers but now need to
>know the best one to get, (cost immaterial)
Cost immaterial, look at a Cisco and invest in a business connection
with a SLA. Consider a leased line/SDSL connection to a business ISP who
offers a good SLA.
>, as I need a really good and stable connection. Also, how easy is it
>to change?
Very, if you get the business package above, the ISP will arrange for
all the installation to be done for you. The hard bit is paying the
bill.

If you don't want to spend the money it would take to get an SLA and
you're sure it's the Binatone modem, I'd probably look at Solwise and
one of their SAR routers, 'phone them first and tell them what software
you'll be using to make sure the router will work with it.
--
Clint Sharp

"Derrick Fawsitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Also, how easy is it to change?
>
>
Depending on your OS 5 or 6 mouse clicks.

In message <NE4OodL6ZrAAFwq+@clintsmc.demon.co.uk>, Clint Sharp
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Derrick Fawsitt
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have
>>been having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a
>>telephone call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound
>>in some of my voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot),
>Variable quality is not necessarily the fault of the modem or your
>connection, could just be net congestion, a problem with the other end
>of the conversation, a process on your machine hogging CPU cycles for a
>second or your ISP, it could be a combination of all the above or it
>could, indeed, be the modem. You'd need to isolate the cause or you
>could spend a lot of money and gain no improvement.
>>and want to change to a Router for my one PC. I have had
>>recommendations for D-Link and various other Routers but now need to
>>know the best one to get, (cost immaterial)
>Cost immaterial, look at a Cisco and invest in a business connection
>with a SLA. Consider a leased line/SDSL connection to a business ISP
>who offers a good SLA.
>>, as I need a really good and stable connection. Also, how easy is it
>>to change?
>Very, if you get the business package above, the ISP will arrange for
>all the installation to be done for you. The hard bit is paying the
>bill.
>
>If you don't want to spend the money it would take to get an SLA and
>you're sure it's the Binatone modem, I'd probably look at Solwise and
>one of their SAR routers, 'phone them first and tell them what software
>you'll be using to make sure the router will work with it.

Thank you Clint and all who have responded so far. I approached Draytex
and I would like to commend their honesty and integrity as this was
their response which seems to support you and the other posters here,
they say...

"I would be wary of the advice you have been given. If the regular
drops and unreliable ADSL signal are caused by a faulty or unreliable
line, any other ADSL device on the same line would probably suffer from
the same problem. A modem should necessarily be any less reliable than a
router. We'd recommend you try and locate further the cause of your
current problems before spending more money".

QED, may I say I am new to ADSL and I am learning all the time.

Regards,


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Derrick Fawsitt

"Derrick Fawsitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you Clint and all who have responded so far. I approached Draytex
> and I would like to commend their honesty and integrity as this was
> their response which seems to support you and the other posters here,
> they say...
>
> "I would be wary of the advice you have been given. If the regular
> drops and unreliable ADSL signal are caused by a faulty or unreliable
> line, any other ADSL device on the same line would probably suffer from
> the same problem. A modem should necessarily be any less reliable than a
> router. We'd recommend you try and locate further the cause of your
> current problems before spending more money".
>
> QED, may I say I am new to ADSL and I am learning all the time.
>
>
I'm just evaluating Smoothwall (a Linux based firewall) using an old 233MHz
Pentium, up to date USB2.0 PCI card and a 4 year old original green "frog"
USB modem that was thrown out by a customer for being totally unreliable,
dropping connection many times a day.
The current uptime is just over 11 days and that includes downloading all 7
Debian Linux CDs over 3 nights.

Just shows that the problem wasn't with the modem or the line but most
likely customer PC's USB ports.

"Derrick Fawsitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have been
> having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a
> telephone call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound
> in some of my voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot),
> and want to change to a Router for my one PC. I have had recommendations
> for D-Link and various other Routers but now need to know the best one
> to get, (cost immaterial), as I need a really good and stable
> connection. Also, how easy is it to change?
> --
> Derrick Fawsitt


The first thing you should try changing are the Microfilters - get some
"quality" ones - try www.adslnation.co.uk they made a big difference to the
line reliability and phone line noise reduction when I replaced mine.

I agree, the ADSL Nation filtes are excellent. A bit pricier than your
average filter but worth every penny.


"aj" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Derrick Fawsitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have started up with a Binatone ADSL Modem from PlusNet and have been
> > having my line drop for no explicable reason and sometimes if a
> > telephone call comes in etc. I also have had variable quality of sound
> > in some of my voice communication programmes, (something I need a lot),
> > and want to change to a Router for my one PC. I have had recommendations
> > for D-Link and various other Routers but now need to know the best one
> > to get, (cost immaterial), as I need a really good and stable
> > connection. Also, how easy is it to change?
> > --
> > Derrick Fawsitt
>
>
> The first thing you should try changing are the Microfilters - get some
> "quality" ones - try www.adslnation.co.uk they made a big difference to
the
> line reliability and phone line noise reduction when I replaced mine.
>
>

> I'm just evaluating Smoothwall (a Linux based firewall) using an old
> 233MHz Pentium, up to date USB2.0 PCI card and a 4 year old original green
> "frog" USB modem that was thrown out by a customer for being totally
> unreliable, dropping connection many times a day. The current uptime is
> just over 11 days and that includes downloading all 7 Debian Linux CDs
> over 3 nights.
>
> Just shows that the problem wasn't with the modem or the line but most
> likely customer PC's USB ports.

Don't I seem to remember that the drivers for those were a bit iffy as
well. Certainly the offical linux ones were not as good as the french
guys.

Dave


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In article <iuBMb.2018$(E-Mail Removed)>, Piers
James <nospan-(E-Mail Removed)-nospam> writes
>I agree, the ADSL Nation filtes are excellent. A bit pricier than your
>average filter but worth every penny.
>
As I understand it, filters are usually installed only on the phone
output to remove the ADSL signal, with no filter on the ADSL output. In
this case, filter quality should have no effect on broadband reception.

Do the Nation filters remove the phone signal from the ADSL output?
--
Tom