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Paul
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      01-24-2007, 11:28 AM
I've recently upgraded to ADSL MAX from a standard 1Mb connection.

ADSL connecting at around 2.2.or 2.3 Mbps (per my router) with noise margin
of 6 - 7 db.

However, actual download/upload speeds for data etc. (using various speed
testing sites) are at most approx. 1.38 and 0.38. Is this normal (I read
somewhere that BT knocks back the actual download speed by 0.5Mbps for
technical reasons - rather a cheat if so!) or should I report a fault to the
ISP? It seems odd that more than doubling the download connection speed
results in only approx 40% better data download speed in practice!

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      01-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Paul wrote:
> I've recently upgraded to ADSL MAX from a standard 1Mb connection.
>
> ADSL connecting at around 2.2.or 2.3 Mbps (per my router) with noise
> margin of 6 - 7 db.
>
> However, actual download/upload speeds for data etc. (using various
> speed testing sites) are at most approx. 1.38 and 0.38. Is this
> normal (I read somewhere that BT knocks back the actual download
> speed by 0.5Mbps for technical reasons - rather a cheat if so!) or
> should I report a fault to the ISP? It seems odd that more than
> doubling the download connection speed results in only approx 40%
> better data download speed in practice!


What is the line attentuation? Have tried rebooting your router every 24
hours for ten days?

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      01-24-2007, 12:25 PM
"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I've recently upgraded to ADSL MAX from a standard 1Mb connection.
>
>ADSL connecting at around 2.2.or 2.3 Mbps (per my router) with noise margin
>of 6 - 7 db.
>
>However, actual download/upload speeds for data etc. (using various speed
>testing sites) are at most approx. 1.38 and 0.38. Is this normal (I read
>somewhere that BT knocks back the actual download speed by 0.5Mbps for
>technical reasons - rather a cheat if so!)


So read some more till you understand
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/maxdsl2.htm
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      01-24-2007, 12:41 PM
"Peter Crosland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Paul wrote:
>> I've recently upgraded to ADSL MAX from a standard 1Mb connection.
>>
>> ADSL connecting at around 2.2.or 2.3 Mbps (per my router) with noise
>> margin of 6 - 7 db.
>>
>> However, actual download/upload speeds for data etc. (using various
>> speed testing sites) are at most approx. 1.38 and 0.38. Is this
>> normal (I read somewhere that BT knocks back the actual download
>> speed by 0.5Mbps for technical reasons - rather a cheat if so!) or
>> should I report a fault to the ISP? It seems odd that more than
>> doubling the download connection speed results in only approx 40%
>> better data download speed in practice!

>
> What is the line attentuation? Have tried rebooting your router every 24
> hours for ten days?
>
> Peter Crosland
>


Thanks for reply Peter.

No - I haven't rebooted as you suggest - wasn't advised to! Anyway it's more
than 10 days now!

Attentuation around 60/61.

Further comments appreciated.

Many thanks.

Paul


 
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      01-24-2007, 12:57 PM
Paul wrote:

>BT knocks back the actual download speed by 0.5Mbps for


No. Their is overhead on the connection however but not 0.5Mbps worth.

> Attentuation around 60/61.


1.38 seems reasonable at that very high attentuation.

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      01-24-2007, 01:49 PM
Paul wrote:
> "Peter Crosland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:45b7564f$0$8726$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Paul wrote:
>>> I've recently upgraded to ADSL MAX from a standard 1Mb connection.
>>>
>>> ADSL connecting at around 2.2.or 2.3 Mbps (per my router) with noise
>>> margin of 6 - 7 db.
>>>
>>> However, actual download/upload speeds for data etc. (using various
>>> speed testing sites) are at most approx. 1.38 and 0.38. Is this
>>> normal (I read somewhere that BT knocks back the actual download
>>> speed by 0.5Mbps for technical reasons - rather a cheat if so!) or
>>> should I report a fault to the ISP? It seems odd that more than
>>> doubling the download connection speed results in only approx 40%
>>> better data download speed in practice!

>>
>> What is the line attentuation? Have tried rebooting your router every 24
>> hours for ten days?
>>
>> Peter Crosland
>>

>
> Thanks for reply Peter.
>
> No - I haven't rebooted as you suggest - wasn't advised to! Anyway it's
> more
> than 10 days now!
>
> Attentuation around 60/61.
>
> Further comments appreciated.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Paul


My stats are:

line attenuation 63db, noise margin 7db, and on that i get 3040kbps, which
gives me about 2500kbps download, consistantly while using newsgroups....

I was on eclipse who LLUed me to whoever they use, it would sycn at about
2000kbps, and i was getting about 38kbps (yes, kbps, equating to about
4.8Kbps).....

Gaz



 
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      01-24-2007, 01:49 PM
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> Paul wrote:
>
> >BT knocks back the actual download speed by 0.5Mbps for

>
> No. Their is overhead on the connection however but not 0.5Mbps worth.
>
>> Attentuation around 60/61.

>
> 1.38 seems reasonable at that very high attentuation.
>
> Ted.


Many thanks Ted. I'm surprised though that the ADSL connection speed isn't
lower if the attenuation is a problem.

Paul


 
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      01-24-2007, 01:49 PM
Ted B wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
>> BT knocks back the actual download speed by 0.5Mbps for

>
> No. Their is overhead on the connection however but not 0.5Mbps worth.
>
>> Attentuation around 60/61.

>
> 1.38 seems reasonable at that very high attentuation.
>
> Ted.


I get 3mb and i am a bit higer

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      01-24-2007, 02:04 PM
"Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>line attenuation 63db, noise margin 7db, and on that i get 3040kbps, which
>gives me about 2500kbps download, consistantly while using newsgroups....


>I was on eclipse who LLUed me to whoever they use, it would sycn at about
>2000kbps, and i was getting about 38kbps (yes, kbps, equating to about
>4.8Kbps).....


Well that was Eclipse deliberately crippling news servers. Interesting to
know they still do that on LLU lines where they presumably are not paying
BT disgusting amounts of money for the connectivity.

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      01-24-2007, 02:44 PM
nospam wrote:
> "Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> line attenuation 63db, noise margin 7db, and on that i get 3040kbps,
>> which
>> gives me about 2500kbps download, consistantly while using newsgroups....

>
>> I was on eclipse who LLUed me to whoever they use, it would sycn at about
>> 2000kbps, and i was getting about 38kbps (yes, kbps, equating to about
>> 4.8Kbps).....

>
> Well that was Eclipse deliberately crippling news servers. Interesting to
> know they still do that on LLU lines where they presumably are not paying
> BT disgusting amounts of money for the connectivity.


that wasnt a newsgroup speed, it was their general speed done through a
variety of speed testing. Newsgroup access for text (ie these posts) was
incredibly slow, it would take seconds to download a response.

Gaz


 
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