ADSL Max enabled on 31/03/06...

With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does this mean
that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?

jpd wrote:
> With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does this mean
> that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?

If you are not already on 2Mbit, then chances are that your line is already
running at the highest stable speed. ADSLmax is not new technology (perhaps you
are thinking of ADSL2+), it's merely letting the existing technology work at the
highest rate that it can do. It is, I think, a time-wasting exercise from BT to
avoid the expense of rolling out ADSL2+, but that it a matter of opinion. The
additional speed, should Demon decide to take advantage of the bulk-upgrade,
will be welcomed, _especially_ if it includes an upstream stream increase.

However, strange things can happen. ADSLmax is rate-adaptive, so in theory it
could run faster if your line is capable of doing so. It may be that your line
was restricted to only 1Mbit because the engineer responsible for the line
testing dribbled into his test kit, or tested the wrong pair, or ...?

"Jim Howes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dvosvc$9r5$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> jpd wrote:
>> With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does this mean
>> that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?
>
> If you are not already on 2Mbit, then chances are that your line is
> already
> running at the highest stable speed. ADSLmax is not new technology
> (perhaps you
> are thinking of ADSL2+), it's merely letting the existing technology work
> at the
> highest rate that it can do. It is, I think, a time-wasting exercise from
> BT to
> avoid the expense of rolling out ADSL2+, but that it a matter of opinion.
> The
> additional speed, should Demon decide to take advantage of the
> bulk-upgrade,
> will be welcomed, _especially_ if it includes an upstream stream increase.
>
> However, strange things can happen. ADSLmax is rate-adaptive, so in
> theory it
> could run faster if your line is capable of doing so. It may be that your
> line
> was restricted to only 1Mbit because the engineer responsible for the line
> testing dribbled into his test kit, or tested the wrong pair, or ...?

I am using a wireless router. Does anyone know how I can get the details of
my line via a website etc instead of calling BT for the info. I presume I
will not automatically get the improved speeds after 31st unless my ISP
enables the connection to do so ??

jpd wrote

> With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does this mean
> that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?
>
>
>

Are we mindreaders? What ISP are you on?

I know everything wrote:

> I am using a wireless router. Does anyone know how I can get the
> details of my line via a website etc instead of calling BT for the
> info. I presume I will not automatically get the improved speeds
> after 31st unless my ISP enables the connection to do so ??

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

Will give you a rough idea of your current speed.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Jim Howes wrote:

> jpd wrote:
> > With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does
> > this mean that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?
>
> If you are not already on 2Mbit, then chances are that your line is
> already running at the highest stable speed.

Well, erm. At the moment your line speed would be pre-set in factors
of 2 (512k, 1M, 2M), whereas Max will twiddle the speed in smaller
increments until it gets optimum results.

So, if your current rate is the best pre-selected rate that the line
can use, you would be unlikely to get the speed doubled, but you might
get *some* improvement.

Mine actually went up from 2M to about 5.5M, but that's because 2M was
what I originally asked for (evidently the line would already have
supported 4M, if it had been on offer).

Nerk <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Are we mindreaders? What ISP are you on?

While it may help to know which ISP is being used, to be able to tell
what their policies/plans for regrading might be, the answer is not
really that much related to which ISP, but whether the line would
be able to provide a higher speed, or not. Unless the user was
deliberately on the current speed (because charges from some ISPs
depend on the speed of the connection) then one has to assume their
line is incapable of a stable connection at double the current speed,
though of course when a regrade is done, it might be able to show a
significant improvement.

However, some might find their line will settle down to a stable
speed which is lower than they get at present.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
jpd <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does this mean
>that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?

Almost every exchange is marked for ADSL max on 31/3, so I'd take it
with a pinch of salt. The chances of BT really enabling them all on
that date seem slim...

-- Richard

On 21 Mar 2006 16:24 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Richard Tobin) wrote:

>Almost every exchange is marked for ADSL max on 31/3, so I'd take it
>with a pinch of salt. The chances of BT really enabling them all on
>that date seem slim...

There was a piece about some 1800 exchanges being marked as "Amber" not
"Green" and unlikely to be able to offer ADSL Max by the end of March.

Hardly surprising, and there'll no doubt be many hundreds of thousands
of regrade orders placed soon after they release the service. I guess
people getting new activations will be most likely to see this offered
while ISPs will have some criteria in place (business users first ? or
length of time as a customer ?) When users were being regraded up to
2000 kbps last year, it took all year for some to get it, and then the
stragglers in January and February were still waiting, unless they did
what a few did, and paid for a regrade to "jump the queue" :-) Peter.

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Jim Howes wrote:
> jpd wrote:
>> With ADSL max being enabled on my exchange on the 31/03/06 does
>> this mean that I will be getting much faster speeds then 1Meg?
>
> If you are not already on 2Mbit, then chances are that your line is
> already running at the highest stable speed.

Sorry, must disagree with you on this point, as even the old limits
for speed were a little conservative & so you could be slightly over
loop loss limits for 2Mb but have a great SNR (which after all is the
real limitation) with MaxADSL/ADSLMax you could get faster speeds,
beware unfortunately for a few people it could lead to slower synch
speeds as well..

>ADSLmax is not new
> technology (perhaps you are thinking of ADSL2+), it's merely
> letting the existing technology work at the highest rate that it
> can do. It is, I think, a time-wasting exercise from BT to avoid
> the expense of rolling out ADSL2+, but that it a matter of opinion.
> The additional speed, should Demon decide to take advantage of the
> bulk-upgrade, will be welcomed, _especially_ if it includes an
> upstream stream increase.
>
> However, strange things can happen. ADSLmax is rate-adaptive, so
> in theory it could run faster if your line is capable of doing so.
> It may be that your line was restricted to only 1Mbit because the
> engineer responsible for the line testing dribbled into his test
> kit, or tested the wrong pair, or ...?

How about remembering what the limitations were before having a pop at
the field engineers who do a very thankless task. They didn't make
them they were just expected to work to them & raise revenue as
well....