ADSL Filter - before or after Surge Protector ?

Wondering whats best signal quality wise

Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
filter into the surge output ?

Thanks

"shopping" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Wondering whats best signal quality wise
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> Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
> to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
> filter into the surge output ?
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> Thanks
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Well an ADSL filter is usually < £5 so if it is first then who cares if it
gets fried. OTOH you would need two surge arrestors one in the phone line
(but then handsets are cheap so who cares if they get fried) and one in the
ADSL.

In theory the surge arrestor packs an in parallel capacitor, so may drop a
few dB of the high frequency ADSL signal...

i'm not thinking cost more signal strength stuff and to make sure a surge
problem is contained

point taken that the loss of an asl filter isnt a big panic

if the surge drops it a few db , will it do that whatever sequence is used ?

maybe i need to get out more ? :-)




"R. Mark Clayton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "shopping" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Wondering whats best signal quality wise
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>> Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
>> to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
>> filter into the surge output ?
>>
>> Thanks
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> Well an ADSL filter is usually < £5 so if it is first then who cares if it
> gets fried. OTOH you would need two surge arrestors one in the phone line
> (but then handsets are cheap so who cares if they get fried) and one in
> the ADSL.
>
> In theory the surge arrestor packs an in parallel capacitor, so may drop a
> few dB of the high frequency ADSL signal...
>

You are assuming things that are inaccurate. You are
assuming a surge protector somehow stops or blocks what three
miles of sky could not. Surge protectors obviously don't do
that. Ineffective plug-in protectors hope you make those
inaccurate assumptions.

A protector is often an DSL eater. What does the filter
do? Keeps the DSL signal for seeing anything after the
filter. Filter should protect DSL signal from that protector.

In North America, effective protectors are installed, for
free, by the telco because 'whole house' protectors are so
effective and so inexpensive. A protector does nothing
effective without a 'less than 3 meter' connection to earth
ground. Where does your plug-in protector mention that? They
hope you never learn what an effective protector does - why
they can be installed for free and why earthing is so
essential.

The concepts of protection are well proven even in 1930s
science papers. The concepts also discussed in a recent
discussion entitled "Dead Computer :-)" about 18 Dec 2005 in
alt-windows-me at:
http://tinyurl.com/99ho2

Numerous effective solutions are available from companies
such as Furse and Polyphaser. There is no effective plug-in
solution. Protection is about earthing each phone wire only
during a destructive transient. For xDSL, a protector must
also be low capacitance to not 'eat' shortwave radio
frequencies.

shopping wrote:
> Wondering whats best signal quality wise
>
> Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
> to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
> filter into the surge output ?

Why do you feel you need a surge protector in the first place ?

Dave

"R. Mark Clayton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In theory the surge arrestor packs an in parallel capacitor, so may drop a
> few dB of the high frequency ADSL signal...

In theory a capacitor across the line isn't a surge protector.
The one fitted (do they still fit them?) in the master socket is a gas
discharge device that drops to zero resistance if a high voltage spike
occurs and that removes the biggest part of the spike. (There may be a
solid-state alternative now but its been 20years since I took a master
socket apart.)

"shopping" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Wondering whats best signal quality wise
>
> Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
> to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
> filter into the surge output ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
All phone master sockets have surge protectors so you don't need a second
one. It's just a gimmick to make it look different from other products.

because . . . there are surges

and theyre not good !

"dave stanton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Why do you feel you need a surge protector in the first place ?
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> Dave

this has turned out a bit more complicated than i thought !

would i be right in judging the concensus opinion is - don't bother ?



"john" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "shopping" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Wondering whats best signal quality wise
>>
>> Surge Protector has a phone input so i'm wondering is it best
>> to plug from the wall socket straight into the surge then plug the
>> filter into the surge output ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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> All phone master sockets have surge protectors so you don't need a second
> one. It's just a gimmick to make it look different from other products.
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>

"dave stanton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Why do you feel you need a surge protector in the first place ?
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> Dave

Think about it...... Why do you think he feels he needs a surge protector?
Are you daft or something?

Fitting a surge protector is a good move. I have fitted them to several
computers and networks over the last few years.
They protect the system from dangerous spikes and surges on the mains
supply.