ADSL ethernet modems

Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but has
many bad reviews

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> Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
> etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but has
> many bad reviews

Not answering your question ... but why so certain you don't want
another router? only "cheap stuff" will tend to act as an ADSL modem as
opposed to a router, there's no harm in having one router talk to
another, the Internet's full of them ;-)

In message of Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Andy Burns writes
>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
>> etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but has
>> many bad reviews
>
>Not answering your question ... but why so certain you don't want
>another router? only "cheap stuff" will tend to act as an ADSL modem as
>opposed to a router, there's no harm in having one router talk to
>another, the Internet's full of them ;-)

My guess is that more people will be wanting to know this because of the
use of ATA-486 with sipgate and wanting QoS at the same time. In that
case you need a separate modem and router and the ATA-486 sits between
them.

David

"David Floyd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message of Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Andy Burns writes
>>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>>> Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
>>> etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but
>>> has
>>> many bad reviews
>>
>>Not answering your question ... but why so certain you don't want
>>another router? only "cheap stuff" will tend to act as an ADSL modem as
>>opposed to a router, there's no harm in having one router talk to
>>another, the Internet's full of them ;-)
>
> My guess is that more people will be wanting to know this because of the
> use of ATA-486 with sipgate and wanting QoS at the same time. In that
> case you need a separate modem and router and the ATA-486 sits between
> them.

I couldn't get the ATA-486 to work as a router at all for some reason. It
works fine though as a client plugged into my hub along with the PC's and
quality is fine as long as I'm not doing a heavy download during a call.

I have a second ATA-486 on order so it will be interesting to see how the
available bandwidth copes with both ;-)

Ivor

"Andy Burns" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> > Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
> > etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but has
> > many bad reviews
>
> Not answering your question ... but why so certain you don't want
> another router? only "cheap stuff" will tend to act as an ADSL modem as
> opposed to a router, there's no harm in having one router talk to
> another, the Internet's full of them ;-)

the question was asked because the OP is thinking of moving to ADSL from NTL
BB, hence he already has a Cable/DSL router, so only needs a Ethernet ADSL
modem to change his connection ;-)

P.

ps he asked a similar question in one of the NTL groups

David Floyd wrote:

> My guess is that more people will be wanting to know this because of the
> use of ATA-486 with sipgate and wanting QoS at the same time. In that
> case you need a separate modem and router and the ATA-486 sits between
> them.

who says you need a separate modem? surely the ATA will plug into a
router on it's WAN side and then you plug your PC or hub/switch into
it's LAN side? You then have two routers but so what? the ATA is doing
QoS and there is nothing "uppstream" of it to interfere with that.
Somethings might get confused by double NAT if you can't turn it off on
the ADSL router I suppose ...

On 25 Jan 2005 14:01:54 -0800, "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Could anyone suggest a good ADSL ethernet modem on its own (no router
>etc - to be connected into a router) ive seen the Dlink 300 one but has
>many bad reviews

I've got one of these:-
<http://www.adslnation.co.uk/products/xmodem-ce.php>

working with a Draytek 2220WPlus ISDN modem/ wireless router.

I never did manage to get it to work plugged in to the WAN port of the
Draytek, but it works fine just plugged in to one of the LAN ports.
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What QoS does the ATA-486 do? Neither SIP nor RTP have any mechanism for
QoS so is the ATA-486 doing something else?

Now there _IS_ the big issue of how the media gets through the router if the
router acts as a NAT. Symmetric RTP and port mapping might fix this.

Paul DS

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:04:43 -0000, "PJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>so only needs a Ethernet ADSL
>modem to change his connection ;-)

sadly ADSL in the UK doesn't generally use PPPoE so the idea falls
down a bit. The ADSLnation X-modem, some D-link products and a Westell
Proline 6000 all reviewed at http://www.adslguide.org.uk/reviews/ use
various kludges to get over this with various routers.

I would ensure the chosen device interworks fully with the existing
router before purchasing.

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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Phil Thompson wrote:

> sadly ADSL in the UK doesn't generally use PPPoE so the idea falls
> down a bit. The ADSLnation X-modem, some D-link products and a Westell
> Proline 6000

I do have the Westell Ultraline 7400 (Proline's big brother, though I
use it in router mode with 8 IP addresses (one NATed for separate
subnet) about to connect a Sipura SPA-3000 will let you know how it goes
.... or be crying for help if it doesn't go ...