adsl and light user discount

Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to "upgrade"
and pay another shedload of money
to BT for a line that gets minimal use?

"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:19vQa.5537$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
"upgrade"
> and pay another shedload of money
> to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
>
>

No you can't. From BT price list:

"Customers with the following services will not be eligible for BT
Broadband. However, should they wish to acquire BT Broadband, Customers will
have to acquire a BT `PSTN single line' and pay the relevant conversion
charges where appropriate."

......
Light User Scheme Lines
etc.

See the full list of exclusions here:

http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/c...ines/15241.htm

Jc

Josey wrote:

>"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:19vQa.5537$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
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>>Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
>>
>>
>"upgrade"
>
>
>>and pay another shedload of money
>>to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>No you can't. From BT price list:
>
>"Customers with the following services will not be eligible for BT
>Broadband. However, should they wish to acquire BT Broadband, Customers will
>have to acquire a BT `PSTN single line' and pay the relevant conversion
>charges where appropriate."
>
>
>
Yes - but this guy isn't asking about BT Broadband in particular - he's
asking about ADSL in general. The above quote refers specifically to
the BT Broadband product.

Geoff

>
>

"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
"upgrade"
> and pay another shedload of money
> to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
>

I'm not sure about a BT light user scheme, but take a look at
http://www.metronet.co.uk/. They do a pay as you go ADSL package. It works
on usage limits, but if the line is unused, this would bring down the ADSL
side of the rental to 10 / month.

--

Martin

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:03:10 +0100, Martin Cooper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
>"upgrade"
>> and pay another shedload of money
>> to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
>>
>
>I'm not sure about a BT light user scheme, but take a look at
>http://www.metronet.co.uk/. They do a pay as you go ADSL package. It works
>on usage limits, but if the line is unused, this would bring down the ADSL
>side of the rental to 10 / month.

But surely if the line is unused there is not much point in paying for
it in the first place ?? If you are not going to use it, don't buy it
in the first place !!

Jasper <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:03:10 +0100, Martin Cooper
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
> >"upgrade"
> >> and pay another shedload of money
> >> to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
> >>
> >
> >I'm not sure about a BT light user scheme, but take a look at
> >http://www.metronet.co.uk/. They do a pay as you go ADSL package. It
works
> >on usage limits, but if the line is unused, this would bring down the
ADSL
> >side of the rental to 10 / month.
>
> But surely if the line is unused there is not much point in paying for
> it in the first place ?? If you are not going to use it, don't buy it
> in the first place !!
>
True, however, the OP was asking about a line for backup purposes. That
means it would spend a fair bit of time unused, hence my response. If the
line does get used, and the usage goes over the limit, then it costs upto
about 24 / month.

--

Martin

The answer is to get share ADSL connection, wireless or otherwise, with a
neighbour and
tell BT to get stuffed.
Regards,
Martin

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Kráftéé wrote:
|>Josey wrote:
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|>>"D Mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
|>>news:19vQa.5537$(E-Mail Removed)...
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|>>>Is it possible to have ADSL on a light-user line without having to
|>>>
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|>>"upgrade"
|>>
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|>>>and pay another shedload of money
|>>>to BT for a line that gets minimal use?
|>>>
|>>>
|>>>
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|>>No you can't. From BT price list:
|>>
|>>"Customers with the following services will not be eligible for BT
|>>Broadband. However, should they wish to acquire BT Broadband,
|>>Customers will have to acquire a BT `PSTN single line' and pay the
|>>relevant conversion charges where appropriate."
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>
|>Yes - but this guy isn't asking about BT Broadband in particular -
|>he's asking about ADSL in general. The above quote refers
|>specifically to
|>the BT Broadband product.
|>
|>Geoff
|
|
| Well seeing that BT provide most of the adsl broadband connections I
| do think that you are pulling at straws..

Well, he is, but there is an interesting point here.

"BT Broadband" is a specific BT product which they now market isn't it.
When the price list was drafted it probably did not exist, but they have
chosen to use the same wording.

If what they mean is "BT IPStream products" or some such, they should
have said so. Saying "BT Broadband" in the Price List has specific
contractual implications, so someone wanting another ISPs servives and
not from "BT Broadband" should be able to argue that the exclusion does
not apply. IMHO

Good luck.

- --
Rev Adrian Kennard
Andrews & Arnold Ltd

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On 14 Jul 2003 20:37, Martin Cooper <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>True, however, the OP was asking about a line for backup purposes. That
>means it would spend a fair bit of time unused, hence my response.

No, both you and Jasper are thinking ADSL might get low use. Light User
Scheme lines have significantly reduced rental (and lots of eligibility
restrictions, so someone with a mobile network or use another carrier
are not meant to have LUS anyway). There was no mention of "backup"
but Metronet does seem a suitable service for a backup ADSL ISP and
seems a pretty good deal to me, albeit having low limits on traffic.

Adrian Kennard <'@o.gg> writes:

> If what they mean is "BT IPStream products" or some such, they should
> have said so. Saying "BT Broadband" in the Price List has specific
> contractual implications, so someone wanting another ISPs servives and
> not from "BT Broadband" should be able to argue that the exclusion does
> not apply. IMHO

Especially as customers of other ISPs do not receive[1] a "setup/user
guide which is provided by BT". Also it states that the minimum term
is 12 months. Therefore this is either not describing the service we
are receiving or BT should be shipping us setup/user guides for our
"wires only" installation[2].

[1] Or at least I have not.

[2] I would imagine that the setup/user guide for 'wires only' would
be very simple - just make sure the micro-filters are connected to
all phone sockets and the ADSL modem/router is connected.