ADSL and home network setup advise please

Hi,

I am about to have ADSL installed, and with two PCs in the house would like
them both to share the connection.

Despite reading most of the material recommended here I am still somewhat
unsure of the best way to go about it and would appreciate any advice.

One PC has wireless access card installed already, and as both PCs may not
be in the same room, I would prefer to have them connected wirelessly. My
plan is to buy an ADSL router with wireless (802.11g) modem ("in one box").
I intend to connect the modem to the PC without the wireless access (PC1),
and them connect the other (PC2) wirelessly to it.
My questions are:

1. Does the plan make sense?
2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
which is in fact my "main" PC? PC1 hardly needs to be online, but I just
thought that using my proposed setup will save me having to buy another
wireless access point.

For the hardware I was thinking about either

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763

or

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75

and will probably buy it from them as well. I know I can probably save a few
pounds going elsewhere, but I have made a decision never again to touch
etailers who do not provide a contact phone number. Any comments on those or
perhaps suggestions of others will also be most appreciated.

Cheers,

J.

"Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> 1. Does the plan make sense?

Yes.

> 2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
> which is in fact my "main" PC?

No.

> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
>
> or
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
>
> and will probably buy it from them as well. I know I can probably save a
few
> pounds going elsewhere, but I have made a decision never again to touch
> etailers who do not provide a contact phone number. Any comments on those
or
> perhaps suggestions of others will also be most appreciated.

Well it depends on your defination of a few pounds..

The Belkin is £102.19 from ebuyer.com instead of £123.38 @ Novatech, while
Amazon have it for £115

From your description, the wireless card needs to be in PC2 - its also worth
checking if it is a 54G card - though even the 802.11b cards are more than
fast enough if the network is meant for net access...

Regards
Sunil

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:54:30 +0100, "Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>1. Does the plan make sense?

Yes

>2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
>which is in fact my "main" PC? PC1 hardly needs to be online, but I just
>thought that using my proposed setup will save me having to buy another
>wireless access point.

You won't need PC1 on at all. The wireless link to PC2 shouldn't
affect the Internet speed - the wireless link is generally a lot
faster than the ADSL speed anyway (11Mbps wireless or faster, whereas
your standard broadband is 0.5Mbps).

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"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:c4gosm$2gif4t$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > 1. Does the plan make sense?
>
> Yes.
>
> > 2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
> > which is in fact my "main" PC?
>
> No.
>
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
> >
> > and will probably buy it from them as well. I know I can probably save a
> few
> > pounds going elsewhere, but I have made a decision never again to touch
> > etailers who do not provide a contact phone number. Any comments on
those
> or
> > perhaps suggestions of others will also be most appreciated.
>
> Well it depends on your defination of a few pounds..
>
> The Belkin is £102.19 from ebuyer.com instead of £123.38 @ Novatech, while
> Amazon have it for £115
>
> From your description, the wireless card needs to be in PC2 - its also
worth
> checking if it is a 54G card - though even the 802.11b cards are more than
> fast enough if the network is meant for net access...
>
> Regards
> Sunil

Many thanks for the speedy reply.

Amazon are definitely a very good option, especially when taking into
account their free P&P, as this was the main reason I intended to go with
Novatech (other items to order from them).

.... and yes, the card is a 54G.

Thanks again.

J.

"Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> For the hardware I was thinking about either
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
>
> or
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
>
>
I would recommend the 3Com bundle deal from Simply, code 46023, or ebuyer,
code 59013, as this includes the all in one ADSL router 754G as well as 54G
PCMCIA card for £104 inc. VAT !!!
As the PC card is £41 at the same places it makes the router just £63 inc.
Half the price of Novatech!!!

The 3Com includes WPA encryption as well as a decent firewall.

"Alien Zord" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:c4gosm$2gif4t$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > For the hardware I was thinking about either
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
> >
> >
> I would recommend the 3Com bundle deal from Simply, code 46023, or ebuyer,
> code 59013, as this includes the all in one ADSL router 754G as well as
54G
> PCMCIA card for £104 inc. VAT !!!
> As the PC card is £41 at the same places it makes the router just £63 inc.
> Half the price of Novatech!!!
>
> The 3Com includes WPA encryption as well as a decent firewall.

i Agree - It does look like a very decent offer.

However I have 2 desktops, so the PCMCIA card is of no use to me. I could of
course flog it on ebay though...

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:14:02 +0100, "Individual.NET" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:


>i Agree - It does look like a very decent offer.
>
>However I have 2 desktops, so the PCMCIA card is of no use to me. I could of
>course flog it on ebay though...

You can get adapters that allow PCMCIA wireless cards to be used in
desktop systems, but it probably isn't the best option.

I would *always* get a router.

I can see on my router (Cisco, quite complicated) that with my ISP
(Clara) I get hit with Blaster roughly once per minute, and anybody
without all the latest windoze patches will get infected. A router
won't let these attacks in.

Peter.
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Individual.NET wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am about to have ADSL installed, and with two PCs in the house would like
> them both to share the connection.
>
> Despite reading most of the material recommended here I am still somewhat
> unsure of the best way to go about it and would appreciate any advice.
>
> One PC has wireless access card installed already, and as both PCs may not
> be in the same room, I would prefer to have them connected wirelessly. My
> plan is to buy an ADSL router with wireless (802.11g) modem ("in one box").
> I intend to connect the modem to the PC without the wireless access (PC1),
> and them connect the other (PC2) wirelessly to it.
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Does the plan make sense?
> 2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
> which is in fact my "main" PC? PC1 hardly needs to be online, but I just
> thought that using my proposed setup will save me having to buy another
> wireless access point.
>
> For the hardware I was thinking about either
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
>
> or
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
>
> and will probably buy it from them as well. I know I can probably save a few
> pounds going elsewhere, but I have made a decision never again to touch
> etailers who do not provide a contact phone number. Any comments on those or
> perhaps suggestions of others will also be most appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> J.
>
>

I have the same setup (but different kit), and it works fine...

I would avoid the Belkin, it's shit. I don't know anything about the
3Com unit, but they have generally a good reputation, so I would think
it will be fine... Personally, I went for Draytek, as their products
have top notch ratings, but are slightly more expensive, but you get
some nice goodies like VPN and such...

"Zapp Brannigan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Individual.NET wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am about to have ADSL installed, and with two PCs in the house would
like
> > them both to share the connection.
> >
> > Despite reading most of the material recommended here I am still
somewhat
> > unsure of the best way to go about it and would appreciate any advice.
> >
> > One PC has wireless access card installed already, and as both PCs may
not
> > be in the same room, I would prefer to have them connected wirelessly.
My
> > plan is to buy an ADSL router with wireless (802.11g) modem ("in one
box").
> > I intend to connect the modem to the PC without the wireless access
(PC1),
> > and them connect the other (PC2) wirelessly to it.
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1. Does the plan make sense?
> > 2. Would there be a drop in the speed of connection (bandwidth) for PC2
> > which is in fact my "main" PC? PC1 hardly needs to be online, but I just
> > thought that using my proposed setup will save me having to buy another
> > wireless access point.
> >
> > For the hardware I was thinking about either
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?BEL-F5D763
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?3M-3CRWE75
> >
> > and will probably buy it from them as well. I know I can probably save a
few
> > pounds going elsewhere, but I have made a decision never again to touch
> > etailers who do not provide a contact phone number. Any comments on
those or
> > perhaps suggestions of others will also be most appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
>
> I have the same setup (but different kit), and it works fine...
>
> I would avoid the Belkin, it's shit. I don't know anything about the
> 3Com unit, but they have generally a good reputation, so I would think
> it will be fine... Personally, I went for Draytek, as their products
> have top notch ratings, but are slightly more expensive, but you get
> some nice goodies like VPN and such...

You have just made my day (NOT!) as I orderred the Belking from Amazon last
night...

Would you care to elaborate why you think that it is s**te?