Adsl and 2 users on one computer query

Being only used to cable broadband I have been assisting elderly relatives
to set up their ADSL connection ( virgin .net), remotely. They are in
Cornwall I am in the Midlands.

After sorting out their Email connection using OE
Have come upon an awkward ( different) usage

Using XP on cable I can set up a number of different user accounts and just
swap between them and have web and mail access on all accounts
their set up seems to require them to log out of a user account
before changing to another user then reconnecting to the ADSL USB modem (
with exactly the same log in details ).
Is this normal with ADSL and a USB modem ?

After writing this screed and thinking about the problem I think this is
normal behaviour and can only be solved by them using a modem / router (
even a single port item )
would appreciate anyone's thoughts on this problem
TIA

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Yddap

Yddap wrote:
> Using XP on cable I can set up a number of different user accounts and just
> swap between them and have web and mail access on all accounts
> their set up seems to require them to log out of a user account
> before changing to another user then reconnecting to the ADSL USB modem (
> with exactly the same log in details ).
> Is this normal with ADSL and a USB modem ?

Probably, depends if the the software and drivers used to make the USB thing go
has to exist in userland, rather than run as a service or device driver. Such
software is badly designed, and features like that contribute to the general
disdain for USB ADSL modems that many in here have. (That, and lack of
universal standards support, linux drivers, and general windows XP USB
flakiness, which is entirely microsoft's fault[1])

> After writing this screed and thinking about the problem I think this is
> normal behaviour and can only be solved by them using a modem / router (
> even a single port item )

Ethernet interfaces, once configured, are run by servers and device drivers, not
userland programs. Hence sessions will survive logout/login. (Actually, there
isn't a 'session' at all, because that has been established by the router, and
the PC has nothing to do with it)

Jim

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[1] In Win2K, they almost got it right. Once a device has been recognised, and
any necessary drivers installed, you can plug it in to any port, on any USB
controller, and the system will happily talk to it. In XP, you plug it into a
port that it hasn't been in before, and somehow, it's a different device, and
many installers seem to insist that you go through the entire software install,
again. My main home system has eight USB2.0[2] ports. Plug and play? My A***

[2] A not uncommon, and growing number, although I usually plug in PCI USB cards
too, because some of our development hardware has a habit of zapping ports, and
if I'm going to smoke something, I'd rather it wasn't my southbridge.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:33:09 GMT, "Yddap" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Being only used to cable broadband I have been assisting elderly relatives
>to set up their ADSL connection ( virgin .net), remotely. They are in
>Cornwall I am in the Midlands.
>
>After sorting out their Email connection using OE
>Have come upon an awkward ( different) usage
>
>Using XP on cable I can set up a number of different user accounts and just
>swap between them and have web and mail access on all accounts
>their set up seems to require them to log out of a user account
>before changing to another user then reconnecting to the ADSL USB modem (
>with exactly the same log in details ).
>Is this normal with ADSL and a USB modem ?
>

No.

There must be something in the way it is set up which causes it to
disconnect the internet connection when the "Switch User"
functionality is invoked.

This should not happen. It may be something to do with the way the USB
drivers are set up.
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Your weapon was made by the lowest bidder!
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

"Alex Heney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:33:09 GMT, "Yddap" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>Being only used to cable broadband I have been assisting elderly
>>relatives
>>to set up their ADSL connection ( virgin .net), remotely. They are in
>>Cornwall I am in the Midlands.
>>
>>After sorting out their Email connection using OE
>>Have come upon an awkward ( different) usage
>>
>>Using XP on cable I can set up a number of different user accounts and
>>just
>>swap between them and have web and mail access on all accounts
>>their set up seems to require them to log out of a user account
>>before changing to another user then reconnecting to the ADSL USB modem (
>>with exactly the same log in details ).
>>Is this normal with ADSL and a USB modem ?
>>
>
> No.
>
> There must be something in the way it is set up which causes it to
> disconnect the internet connection when the "Switch User"
> functionality is invoked.
>
> This should not happen. It may be something to do with the way the USB
> drivers are set up.
> --
> Alex Heney, Global Villager
> Your weapon was made by the lowest bidder!
> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

When you first create the dial-up to connect to the ISP there is an option
for "only this user" / "all users of this computer". Having said that, some
USB ADSL devices have a separate installer that means you don't use the
Windows connectoid.

Best solution is a router - safer, more reliable, don't have to set up
anything on the computer. Generally start at £20. And normally can connect
up to 4 computers ...

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Graham

"Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eggmb2$kda$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Alex Heney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:33:09 GMT, "Yddap" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Being only used to cable broadband I have been assisting elderly
>>>relatives
>>>to set up their ADSL connection ( virgin .net), remotely. They are in
>>>Cornwall I am in the Midlands.
>>>
>>>After sorting out their Email connection using OE
>>>Have come upon an awkward ( different) usage
>>>
>>>Using XP on cable I can set up a number of different user accounts and
>>>just
>>>swap between them and have web and mail access on all accounts
>>>their set up seems to require them to log out of a user account
>>>before changing to another user then reconnecting to the ADSL USB modem (
>>>with exactly the same log in details ).
>>>Is this normal with ADSL and a USB modem ?
>>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> There must be something in the way it is set up which causes it to
>> disconnect the internet connection when the "Switch User"
>> functionality is invoked.
>>
>> This should not happen. It may be something to do with the way the USB
>> drivers are set up.
>> --
>> Alex Heney, Global Villager
>> Your weapon was made by the lowest bidder!
>> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
>
> When you first create the dial-up to connect to the ISP there is an option
> for "only this user" / "all users of this computer". Having said that,
> some USB ADSL devices have a separate installer that means you don't use
> the Windows connectoid.
>
> Best solution is a router - safer, more reliable, don't have to set up
> anything on the computer. Generally start at £20. And normally can
> connect up to 4 computers ...
>
> --
> Graham
>
>

Thanks folks for the replies, it appears that I will have to get my hands on
the computer in its own location , will have to wait till next summer when
the relatives are back from their winter in the States as I have managed to
get it working at least basically they have connection and communication at
the Mo
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Yddap