adding wireless router to existing router

can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.

The short answer is no. Now for the long answer. Routers by default assign
DHCP to their client computers. If you get 2 devices trying to assign IP
addresses on the same network there will be conflict. Although it may work
for accessing the internet it will not allow the wireless computers to see
the wired computers on the other router. That being said here is the fix.
The wireless router may be configured as an access point by turning off its
DHCP function and assigning it another IP address (192.168.2.1). I could
not get this fix to work between my Linksys HPRO200 and a Linkys wireless
router. I exchanged the wireless router for and access point and all worked
right out of the box.
"up north" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
> wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.
>
>

On 26/12/03 12:36 pm, in article ioSdndpDmL-ltnGiRVn-(E-Mail Removed),
"BudMan" <budman_@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The short answer is no.

Its also completely wrong - yes you can, I do it, my friend does it and he
has a network of i00 subscribers on a rural wifi network arranged in such a
fashion.

<SNIP>
> "up north" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
>> wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.

Well then tell that to my network. Cable modem to linksys to dlink.
They all disk out ip addresses (granted they are all different
subnets) but it works....

"BudMan" <budman_@yahoo.com> wrote:

>The short answer is no. Now for the long answer. Routers by default assign
>DHCP to their client computers. If you get 2 devices trying to assign IP
>addresses on the same network there will be conflict. Although it may work
>for accessing the internet it will not allow the wireless computers to see
>the wired computers on the other router. That being said here is the fix.
>The wireless router may be configured as an access point by turning off its
>DHCP function and assigning it another IP address (192.168.2.1). I could
>not get this fix to work between my Linksys HPRO200 and a Linkys wireless
>router. I exchanged the wireless router for and access point and all worked
>right out of the box.
>"up north" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
>> wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.
>>
>>
>
>

yes,
internet
|
DSL/Cable modem
(ip from isp eg. 203.122.186.12)
|
|
(WAN Port)
ROUTER 1 -- PCs (192.168.1.XXX)
(192.168.1.1)
|
|
(192.168.1.100)
(WAN Port)
ROUTER 2 -- PCs (192.168.2.XXX)
(192.168.2.1)
!
wireless
PCs
(192.168.2.XXX)

* 2 router set to 2 diff base address, router1 (wired) 192.168.1.1 and
router2 (wireless) 192.168.2.1
* Router2 WAN port connect to normal LAN port on router1 with WAN address
with IP of router1 range 192.168.1.100
* you can set router2 to DHCP enable for but not for router 1 because
without the different address ranges the routers wouldn't be able to
properly build their routing tables.

"up north" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
> wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.
>
>

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:32:25 GMT, "voxDEI" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>yes,
> internet
> |
> DSL/Cable modem
>(ip from isp eg. 203.122.186.12)
> |
> |
> (WAN Port)
> ROUTER 1 -- PCs (192.168.1.XXX)
> (192.168.1.1)
> |
> |
> (192.168.1.100)
> (WAN Port)
> ROUTER 2 -- PCs (192.168.2.XXX)
> (192.168.2.1)
> !
> wireless
> PCs
> (192.168.2.XXX)
>
>* 2 router set to 2 diff base address, router1 (wired) 192.168.1.1 and
>router2 (wireless) 192.168.2.1
>* Router2 WAN port connect to normal LAN port on router1 with WAN address
>with IP of router1 range 192.168.1.100
>* you can set router2 to DHCP enable for but not for router 1 because
>without the different address ranges the routers wouldn't be able to
>properly build their routing tables.
>

If you do it this way you won't be able to use MS file and printer
sharing because it doesn't work across subnets, but there is no
advantage to doing it this way anyway.

I do it like this:

DSL router LAN port connected to Wireless router LAN port (actually
there's a netrork switch between them but that's irrelevant)
DSL router set to provide DCHP
Wireless router set to AP only (or set WAN to static IP, IP 127.0.0.1,
netmask 255.255.255.0, makes no difference)
Wireless router LAN side set DCHP OFF, IP address on same subnet as
DSL router but outside DSL router's DCHP pool.
E.g: DSL router has IP 192.168.2.1, DCHP pool starts at 192.168.2.100
and ends at 192.168.2.199, wireless router is 192.168.2.200

Only problem is the USR 8054 WAP drops signal momentarily at
intervals, but that seems to be an unrelated problem.

thanks a lot, i will try this in a couple of days thanks upnorth
"up north" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> can i add a wireless router onto an existing router. can i just plug the
> wireless router into a lan port on the existing router.
>
>

I have 2 USR 8054.

I want to extend my network to annother location to, but without wires
between the 2 accespoint/routers I cannot accomplish it.
There must be a way to connect them wiresles.
You know what to do?
I donot get it to work.

Frits.
"Niall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:32:25 GMT, "voxDEI" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >yes,
> > internet
> > |
> > DSL/Cable modem
> >(ip from isp eg. 203.122.186.12)
> > |
> > |
> > (WAN Port)
> > ROUTER 1 -- PCs (192.168.1.XXX)
> > (192.168.1.1)
> > |
> > |
> > (192.168.1.100)
> > (WAN Port)
> > ROUTER 2 -- PCs (192.168.2.XXX)
> > (192.168.2.1)
> > !
> > wireless
> > PCs
> > (192.168.2.XXX)
> >
> >* 2 router set to 2 diff base address, router1 (wired) 192.168.1.1 and
> >router2 (wireless) 192.168.2.1
> >* Router2 WAN port connect to normal LAN port on router1 with WAN address
> >with IP of router1 range 192.168.1.100
> >* you can set router2 to DHCP enable for but not for router 1 because
> >without the different address ranges the routers wouldn't be able to
> >properly build their routing tables.
> >
>
> If you do it this way you won't be able to use MS file and printer
> sharing because it doesn't work across subnets, but there is no
> advantage to doing it this way anyway.
>
> I do it like this:
>
> DSL router LAN port connected to Wireless router LAN port (actually
> there's a netrork switch between them but that's irrelevant)
> DSL router set to provide DCHP
> Wireless router set to AP only (or set WAN to static IP, IP 127.0.0.1,
> netmask 255.255.255.0, makes no difference)
> Wireless router LAN side set DCHP OFF, IP address on same subnet as
> DSL router but outside DSL router's DCHP pool.
> E.g: DSL router has IP 192.168.2.1, DCHP pool starts at 192.168.2.100
> and ends at 192.168.2.199, wireless router is 192.168.2.200
>
> Only problem is the USR 8054 WAP drops signal momentarily at
> intervals, but that seems to be an unrelated problem.

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:28:39 +0100, "Fritsos" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have 2 USR 8054.
>
>I want to extend my network to annother location to, but without wires
>between the 2 accespoint/routers I cannot accomplish it.
>There must be a way to connect them wiresles.
>You know what to do?
>I donot get it to work.
>

I have not tried this, but I understand it to be possible. Have you
tried searching on http://groups.google.com for a solution?

--
Niall

> If you do it this way you won't be able to use MS file and printer
> sharing because it doesn't work across subnets, but there is no
> advantage to doing it this way anyway.

Advantage:
*You intentionally want to create a protected part of your LAN via the
second router's firewall, or
*You want to combine the firewall features of both routers, i.e., port
filtering, content filtering, logging, etc.

Thats why 2 router first place, else just an AP as your setup below, turning
Wireless router to AP kinda defeat purpose. If you really do need two
routers, you're going to have to live with limitations on file and printer
sharing and network browsing. Here hows printer file sharing: on client
connected to 192.168.2.XXX iniate the RUN "\\192.168.1.XXX"

> I do it like this:
>
> DSL router LAN port connected to Wireless router LAN port (actually
> there's a netrork switch between them but that's irrelevant)
> DSL router set to provide DCHP
> Wireless router set to AP only (or set WAN to static IP, IP 127.0.0.1,
> netmask 255.255.255.0, makes no difference)
> Wireless router LAN side set DCHP OFF, IP address on same subnet as
> DSL router but outside DSL router's DCHP pool.
> E.g: DSL router has IP 192.168.2.1, DCHP pool starts at 192.168.2.100
> and ends at 192.168.2.199, wireless router is 192.168.2.200
>
> Only problem is the USR 8054 WAP drops signal momentarily at
> intervals, but that seems to be an unrelated problem.