Adding wireless extender

My WAN connected wifi router runs 2 wired (RJ45) and 2 wireless PC's. It
runs unprotected. I want to add a wireless extender to that network. I like
the extender to run in WEP protected mode. Will it be possible to enter the
protected part (extender) via the unprotected primary router? Thanks for any
advise.

An Extender is just a "repeater" to make the signal reach further and has
nothing to do with security at all. You also only get 1/2 (one half) speed
when connection through the "repeater" due to the way the technology of
"repeating" the radio signal works. To me,...they are a waste of money

Configure WPA (not WEP) on the "router" and forget it.
If the "router" is not capable of WPA Security than completely disable the
Wireless features and run it like a regular "wired router". Get a very
short patch cable and attach a Wireless Access Point [WAP] (not a "router")
and configure it also with WPA security. Then leave it sit right next to the
"router".

You don't need a repeater unless the PC is several hundred feet away,...and
even then you don't *need* it because you can do better by just adding more
WAPs. If you need more distance run a physical cable (maximum of 100
meters) from the "router" in the direction that you need to go and then
place a normal, simple Wireless Access Point [WAP] (not a "router") and
configure it also with WPA security.

As you can see by this,...you extend the reach of the wireless element of
the network by adding additionalWireless Access Points [WAPs] in strategic
locations. The WAPs all attach to the LAN by physical cables. The cable
length limit is 100 meters. The PCs that run wirelessly will attach to
whatever WAP gives them the strongest signal.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Andre De Clercq" <andre,(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My WAN connected wifi router runs 2 wired (RJ45) and 2 wireless PC's. It
> runs unprotected. I want to add a wireless extender to that network. I
> like the extender to run in WEP protected mode. Will it be possible to
> enter the protected part (extender) via the unprotected primary router?
> Thanks for any advise.
>

Thanks for the very informative reply. The problem is that I cannot run a
physical cable to the desired location for esthetic reasons. Indeed
disabling the primary router and place another protected one would solve the
security issue, but still not my reach problem. The reason for my question
on security is that I read that a Wireless Reach Extender can get WEP/WPA on
its own. So, I wanted to know, when I configure the extender as protected,
if one could still get access (via the non protected primary router and the
wireless extender channel), to the PC's which are tuned on the protected
extender. From the protection viewpoint it looks to me as if the
unprotected primary network, and the secured extended network are two
unbridged networks, and thus totally separated...but I am not sure...

"Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> An Extender is just a "repeater" to make the signal reach further and has
> nothing to do with security at all. You also only get 1/2 (one half)
> speed when connection through the "repeater" due to the way the technology
> of "repeating" the radio signal works. To me,...they are a waste of money
>
> Configure WPA (not WEP) on the "router" and forget it.
> If the "router" is not capable of WPA Security than completely disable the
> Wireless features and run it like a regular "wired router". Get a very
> short patch cable and attach a Wireless Access Point [WAP] (not a
> "router") and configure it also with WPA security. Then leave it sit right
> next to the "router".
>
> You don't need a repeater unless the PC is several hundred feet
> away,...and even then you don't *need* it because you can do better by
> just adding more WAPs. If you need more distance run a physical cable
> (maximum of 100 meters) from the "router" in the direction that you need
> to go and then place a normal, simple Wireless Access Point [WAP] (not a
> "router") and configure it also with WPA security.
>
> As you can see by this,...you extend the reach of the wireless element of
> the network by adding additionalWireless Access Points [WAPs] in
> strategic locations. The WAPs all attach to the LAN by physical cables.
> The cable length limit is 100 meters. The PCs that run wirelessly will
> attach to whatever WAP gives them the strongest signal.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Andre De Clercq" <andre,(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%230X%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My WAN connected wifi router runs 2 wired (RJ45) and 2 wireless PC's. It
>> runs unprotected. I want to add a wireless extender to that network. I
>> like the extender to run in WEP protected mode. Will it be possible to
>> enter the protected part (extender) via the unprotected primary router?
>> Thanks for any advise.
>>
>
>

Hi
Security MUST be uniform across a Wireless Network, and that includes
Extenders, Repeaters, WDS, Wireless game box, Printers NAS, or any or any
other Wireless device that is on the network.
Using Wireless without security is a very bad idea. Through unprotected
Wireless network people can also get to your wire computers and acquire your
personal information.
From the weakest to the strongest, Wireless security capacity is.
No Security
MAC______(Band Aid if nothing else is available).
WEP64____(Easy, to "Brake" by knowledgeable people).
WEP128___(A little Harder, but "Hackable" too).
WPA-PSK__(Very Hard to Brake ).
WPA-AES__(Not functionally Breakable)
WPA2____ (Not functionally Breakable).
Note 1: WPA-AES the the current entry level rendition of WPA2.
Note 2: If you use WinXP and did not updated it you would have to download
the WPA2 patch from Microsoft. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357
The documentation of your Wireless devices (Wireless Router, and Wireless
Computer's Card) should state the type of security that is available with
your Wireless hardware.
All devices MUST be set to the same security level using the same pass
phrase.
Therefore the security must be set according what ever is the best possible
of one of the Wireless devices.
I.e. even if most of your system might be capable to be configured to the
max. with WPA2, but one device is only capable to be configured to max . of
WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP.
If you need more good security and one device (like a Wireless card that can
do WEP only) is holding better security for the whole Network, replace the
device with a better one.
Setting Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).




"Andre De Clercq" <andre,(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My WAN connected wifi router runs 2 wired (RJ45) and 2 wireless PC's. It
> runs unprotected. I want to add a wireless extender to that network. I
> like the extender to run in WEP protected mode. Will it be possible to
> enter the protected part (extender) via the unprotected primary router?
> Thanks for any advise.
>

WEP, WPA, ect,...do *not* secure "networks".

They secure the radio connection between a Client and the Access Point they
connect to.

It needs to be configured on every device emmiting a radio signal.


--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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