Adding computer to existing network

I networked three computers using a hub a few years ago. I
added a fourth computer last year. I recently tried to add
a fifth computer unsuccessfully. I believe all is in
order, but the newly added computer only sees itself on
the network, and the other computers do not see it. I
suspect the network card for the added computer is the
problem. All computers are using Windows 98. The prior
network cards used show as:

SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI [SMC1211 Series]
3 Com Ethernet III ISA [3C 509b - TPO] in PnP mode

The newly added computer as a card showing:

PCI Fast Ethernet DEC 21143 Based Adapter

I have made sure the network settings are the same, and
the workgroup the same name. Each computer has it's own
name and unique hard drive letter.

Do I buy another network card for this computer, or keep
looking for another problem?

Thanks for any help.

Are you sure your hub will accept five connections? How many Ethernet ports
does it have, and is one of them labeled "Uplink"?

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"Barry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I networked three computers using a hub a few years ago. I
> added a fourth computer last year. I recently tried to add
> a fifth computer unsuccessfully. I believe all is in
> order, but the newly added computer only sees itself on
> the network, and the other computers do not see it. I
> suspect the network card for the added computer is the
> problem. All computers are using Windows 98. The prior
> network cards used show as:
>
> SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI [SMC1211 Series]
> 3 Com Ethernet III ISA [3C 509b - TPO] in PnP mode
>
> The newly added computer as a card showing:
>
> PCI Fast Ethernet DEC 21143 Based Adapter
>
> I have made sure the network settings are the same, and
> the workgroup the same name. Each computer has it's own
> name and unique hard drive letter.
>
> Do I buy another network card for this computer, or keep
> looking for another problem?
>
> Thanks for any help.

Yes, the hub will accept another computer. I took the
etherenet connection for the computer that will not work,
and set a lap top computer in the network with that same
connector. I set it up, and it saw the other computers and
they saw it.

Sure appreciate your looking at this.

Okay, that answers that. :-)

Can you ping the other computers by name or by IP address from the one that
doesn't work?

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, the hub will accept another computer. I took the
> etherenet connection for the computer that will not work,
> and set a lap top computer in the network with that same
> connector. I set it up, and it saw the other computers and
> they saw it.
>
> Sure appreciate your looking at this.

Richard, now I have to admit that I am in a bit over my
head. How do I "ping" the other computers. Can't tell you
how much I appreciate the help. BTW, I assume you think
the card in the computer I am working with is not the
problem.
>-----Original Message-----
>Okay, that answers that. :-)
>
>Can you ping the other computers by name or by IP address
from the one that
>doesn't work?
>
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to.
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>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> Yes, the hub will accept another computer. I took the
>> etherenet connection for the computer that will not
work,
>> and set a lap top computer in the network with that same
>> connector. I set it up, and it saw the other computers
and
>> they saw it.
>>
>> Sure appreciate your looking at this.
>
>
>.
>

That's what I'm trying to help you discover.

A ping test involves finding out the IP address of one PC on your network,
then going to another computer and opening up an MS-DOS Window and typing
the command:

ping <ipaddress> (ENTER)

to see if the computers can talk to each other. On a Windows 98, WindowsMe,
Windows 2000 or Windows XP system you can use IPCONFIG /ALL (typed in a DOS
window) to find out the IP address of a computer; on a Windows 98 or
WindowsMe computer you can also use WINIPCFG to find it out.

For example, let's assume that one of the working PCs on your network has
the IP address 10.101.1.2 - with this information you'd go to the computer
that can't see the other computers and type:

ping 10.101.1.2 (then press the Enter key)

and see what the results are. Ideally we should see four pings go from the
non-working PC to the working PC with no problems. At the other end of the
spectrum we'd see four pings to from the non-working PC to the working PC
and the result would be "Request timed out".

Finding out the IP addresses of the computers on your network will help rule
out other problems, like the problem child not getting a proper IP address.
If your other computers are all in the same range of IP addresses (like
10.101.1.2, 10.101.1.4, 10.101.1.5 and so on) but the non-working computer
has an odd IP address (like 192.168.33.166) then that tells us that the
problem must be that the non-working PC isn't getting a proper IP address
from your network.

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Richard, now I have to admit that I am in a bit over my
> head. How do I "ping" the other computers. Can't tell you
> how much I appreciate the help. BTW, I assume you think
> the card in the computer I am working with is not the
> problem.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Okay, that answers that. :-)
> >
> >Can you ping the other computers by name or by IP address
> from the one that
> >doesn't work?
> >
> >--
> >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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> so that
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> to.
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> >
> >
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:06ca01c3a262$2f3a4af0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >> Yes, the hub will accept another computer. I took the
> >> etherenet connection for the computer that will not
> work,
> >> and set a lap top computer in the network with that same
> >> connector. I set it up, and it saw the other computers
> and
> >> they saw it.
> >>
> >> Sure appreciate your looking at this.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

>-----Original Message-----
>I networked three computers using a hub a few years ago.
I
>added a fourth computer last year. I recently tried to
add
>a fifth computer unsuccessfully. I believe all is in
>order, but the newly added computer only sees itself on
>the network, and the other computers do not see it. I
>suspect the network card for the added computer is the
>problem. All computers are using Windows 98. The prior
>network cards used show as:
>
>SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI [SMC1211 Series]
>3 Com Ethernet III ISA [3C 509b - TPO] in PnP mode
>
>The newly added computer as a card showing:
>
>PCI Fast Ethernet DEC 21143 Based Adapter
>
>I have made sure the network settings are the same, and
>the workgroup the same name. Each computer has it's own
>name and unique hard drive letter.
>
>Do I buy another network card for this computer, or keep
>looking for another problem?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>.
>Just change the nic card and checkit up.

thank you,

Richard, I will try to do this tomorrow. The networked
computers are in my son's office. I see the suggestion on
changing the card. This is a great resource for folks like
me. Thanks.

>>Just change the nic card and checkit up.

I will need to borrow or buy a card. I can see about
opening up one of the computers on the network and
borrowing the card. Put it in the unresponsive computer.
That would certainly tell the story. I appreciate the
response.

Would you believe that I am an old geezer of 71 years?
Wonder if I can really do all this.

Let us know how things go - we'll be here. :-)

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Richard, I will try to do this tomorrow. The networked
> computers are in my son's office. I see the suggestion on
> changing the card. This is a great resource for folks like
> me. Thanks.