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Brian O
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      09-15-2007, 05:38 AM
I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and a laptop running
XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can transfer files in a
limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move files to the
desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth to the laptop),
and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im using linksys
wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might not have set up
correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs need to enter a
password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any help is truly
appreciated. Thanks.
Brian


 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      09-15-2007, 05:32 PM
Hi
If you connected the Wireless Router using the WAN port you created two
segregated Networks and thus traffic goes only one way.
The Wireless Router has to be connected through a regular port.
This page describe the principle, http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and a laptop running
> XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can transfer files in a
> limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move files to the
> desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth to the laptop),
> and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im using linksys
> wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might not have set up
> correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs need to enter a
> password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any help is truly
> appreciated. Thanks.
> Brian
>
>


 
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Lem
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      09-28-2007, 03:51 PM
Brian O wrote:
> noone out there that can help??
>
> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed) <private.php?do=newpm&u=>>
> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> here are the ipconfig/all for the ME desktop with the dialup
> connection, and the XP laptop unable to access the internet via the
> ME desktop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> Brian
>
> For the desktop running ME as the server
>
> Windows IP Configuration
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : xxxx
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 209.116.241.10
> 216.99.225.31
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>
> 0 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
>
> 1 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-1A-70-A3-C0-3C
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.4.40
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 22 07 9:08:36 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>
> 2 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
> Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-78-A8-03
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> Media Status. . . . . . . . : Disconnected
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>
> 3 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 2.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>
>
> For the laptop running XP as a client:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : xxxxx
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI
> Ethernet Adapter (10/100)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-9B-F4-CE
>
> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook
> Adapter WPC54G V3
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-F7-A8-D7
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.177.184
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)
> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> news:#IS$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Posting the results of ipconfig /all on both computers may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)
> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and a
> laptop running
> XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can
> transfer files in a
> limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move
> files to the
> desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth
> to the laptop),
> and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im
> using linksys
> wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might not
> have set up
> correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs
> need to enter a
> password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any help
> is truly
> appreciated. Thanks.
> Brian
>

You don't seem to have set up ICS.

You also should know that WEP encryption -- which unfortunately is the
best you can do with XP in an ad hoc network -- is quite easily cracked
these days. You really should buy yourself a wireless router. They're
not very expensive, and in addition to permitting the use of better
encryption, will provide you a layer of protection (NAT plus, in many
cases, a built-in firewall) from Internet nasties.

Here's a (now obsolescent) article by MS-MVP Barb Bowman explaining how
to set up ICS using a wireless ad hoc connection:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...02april08.mspx
The article is based on XP, but I assume that ICS in WinME works similarly.

--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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      09-28-2007, 08:02 PM

"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Brian O wrote:
> > noone out there that can help??
> >
> > "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed) <private.php?do=newpm&u=>>
> > wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > here are the ipconfig/all for the ME desktop with the dialup
> > connection, and the XP laptop unable to access the internet via the
> > ME desktop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> > Brian
> >
> > For the desktop running ME as the server
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : xxxx
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 209.116.241.10
> > 216.99.225.31
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
> >
> > 0 Ethernet adapter :
> > Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
> > Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> > Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
> >
> > 1 Ethernet adapter :
> > Description . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-1A-70-A3-C0-3C
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.4.40
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> > Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 22 07 9:08:36 PM
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> >
> > 2 Ethernet adapter :
> > Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
> > Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-78-A8-03
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > Media Status. . . . . . . . : Disconnected
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> >
> > 3 Ethernet adapter :
> > Description . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
> > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 2.0.0.0
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> > Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> >
> >
> > For the laptop running XP as a client:
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : xxxxx
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI
> > Ethernet Adapter (10/100)
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-9B-F4-CE
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook
> > Adapter WPC54G V3
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-F7-A8-D7
> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.177.184
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)
> > <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> > news:#IS$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Posting the results of ipconfig /all on both computers may help.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >
> > "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)
> > <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and a
> > laptop running
> > XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can
> > transfer files in a
> > limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move
> > files to the
> > desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth
> > to the laptop),
> > and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im
> > using linksys
> > wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might not
> > have set up
> > correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs
> > need to enter a
> > password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any help
> > is truly
> > appreciated. Thanks.
> > Brian
> >

> You don't seem to have set up ICS.
>
> You also should know that WEP encryption -- which unfortunately is the
> best you can do with XP in an ad hoc network -- is quite easily cracked
> these days. You really should buy yourself a wireless router. They're
> not very expensive, and in addition to permitting the use of better
> encryption, will provide you a layer of protection (NAT plus, in many
> cases, a built-in firewall) from Internet nasties.
>
> Here's a (now obsolescent) article by MS-MVP Barb Bowman explaining how
> to set up ICS using a wireless ad hoc connection:
>

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...wman_02april08.
mspx
> The article is based on XP, but I assume that ICS in WinME works

similarly.
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer


Right now I'm more concerned about getting the network going than the
security. I cant use a router because they require a high speed connection
and I don't have that. Also, I do have ICS set up on the ME desktop
already. What gives you the idea that its not set up? Is there something
indicated in the ipconfig stuff or is this just a guess? Thanks, but I've
tried looking at that webpage already.
B


 
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      09-29-2007, 04:46 AM
Brian O wrote:
> "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Brian O wrote:
>>> noone out there that can help??
>>>
>>> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed) <private.php?do=newpm&u=>>
>>> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> here are the ipconfig/all for the ME desktop with the dialup
>>> connection, and the XP laptop unable to access the internet via the
>>> ME desktop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> For the desktop running ME as the server
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : xxxx
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 209.116.241.10
>>> 216.99.225.31
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>>>
>>> 0 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
>>>
>>> 1 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-1A-70-A3-C0-3C
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.4.40
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 22 07 9:08:36 PM
>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>>
>>> 2 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
>>> Adapter
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-78-A8-03
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> Media Status. . . . . . . . : Disconnected
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>>
>>> 3 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 2.0.0.0
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>>
>>>
>>> For the laptop running XP as a client:
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : xxxxx
>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI
>>> Ethernet Adapter (10/100)
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-9B-F4-CE
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook
>>> Adapter WPC54G V3
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-F7-A8-D7
>>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.177.184
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)
>>> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
>>> news:#IS$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Posting the results of ipconfig /all on both computers may help.
>>>
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>>
>>> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)
>>> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and a
>>> laptop running
>>> XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can
>>> transfer files in a
>>> limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move
>>> files to the
>>> desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth
>>> to the laptop),
>>> and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im
>>> using linksys
>>> wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might not
>>> have set up
>>> correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs
>>> need to enter a
>>> password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any help
>>> is truly
>>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>> Brian
>>>

>> You don't seem to have set up ICS.
>>
>> You also should know that WEP encryption -- which unfortunately is the
>> best you can do with XP in an ad hoc network -- is quite easily cracked
>> these days. You really should buy yourself a wireless router. They're
>> not very expensive, and in addition to permitting the use of better
>> encryption, will provide you a layer of protection (NAT plus, in many
>> cases, a built-in firewall) from Internet nasties.
>>
>> Here's a (now obsolescent) article by MS-MVP Barb Bowman explaining how
>> to set up ICS using a wireless ad hoc connection:
>>

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...wman_02april08.
> mspx
>> The article is based on XP, but I assume that ICS in WinME works

> similarly.
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

>
> Right now I'm more concerned about getting the network going than the
> security. I cant use a router because they require a high speed connection
> and I don't have that. Also, I do have ICS set up on the ME desktop
> already. What gives you the idea that its not set up? Is there something
> indicated in the ipconfig stuff or is this just a guess? Thanks, but I've
> tried looking at that webpage already.
> B
>
>


When you share an Internet connection with another network adapter using
ICS, the second adapter (the one to which your LAN is connected) is
assigned an IP address of 192.169.0.1. ICS includes a "DHCP Allocator"
which assigns IP addresses (and the gateway address) to adapters on the
local network. These are in the subnet 192.168.0.x

Thus, when ICS is correctly set up, the wireless adapter in your desktop
should have an IP address of 192.168.0.1 and the wireless adapter in
your laptop should have an IP address of 192.168.0.x (2 <= x <=254) and
a Default Gateway of 192.168.0.1.

In contrast, the wireless adapter in your WinME desktop has an
APIPA-type IP address of 169.254.4.40 and the wireless adapter in your
laptop has a similar IP address of 169.254.177.184. Although these two
IP addresses allow the two computers to communicate in an ad hoc
wireless network, it is not an ICS network.

This MSKB article describes setting up ICS in WinMe:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229829

Here are some manual steps that work in XP; I don't know how closely the
correspond to what's available in Me (see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126/):

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the ICSHARE Adapter connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click Advanced.
5. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection.
6. If there's a box that says "Select a private network connection",
click the arrow and select the wireless-G USB adapter connection.


--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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      09-29-2007, 01:01 PM

"Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Brian O wrote:
> > "Lem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Brian O wrote:
> >>> noone out there that can help??
> >>>
> >>> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)

<private.php?do=newpm&u=>>
> >>> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> here are the ipconfig/all for the ME desktop with the dialup
> >>> connection, and the XP laptop unable to access the internet via

the
> >>> ME desktop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> For the desktop running ME as the server
> >>>
> >>> Windows IP Configuration
> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : xxxx
> >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 209.116.241.10
> >>> 216.99.225.31
> >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> >>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
> >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> >>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
> >>>
> >>> 0 Ethernet adapter :
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 216.50.243.13
> >>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> >>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
> >>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
> >>>
> >>> 1 Ethernet adapter :
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-1A-70-A3-C0-3C
> >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.4.40
> >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> >>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> >>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 22 07 9:08:36 PM
> >>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> >>>
> >>> 2 Ethernet adapter :
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
> >>> Adapter
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-78-A8-03
> >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >>> Media Status. . . . . . . . : Disconnected
> >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> >>>
> >>> 3 Ethernet adapter :
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
> >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 2.0.0.0
> >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> >>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> >>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For the laptop running XP as a client:
> >>>
> >>> Windows IP Configuration
> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : xxxxx
> >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >>>
> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI
> >>> Ethernet Adapter (10/100)
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-9B-F4-CE
> >>>
> >>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook
> >>> Adapter WPC54G V3
> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-F7-A8-D7
> >>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >>> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.177.184
> >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)
> >>> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> >>> news:#IS$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Posting the results of ipconfig /all on both computers may

help.
> >>>
> >>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> >>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> >>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >>>
> >>> "Brian O" <(E-Mail Removed)
> >>> <private.php?do=newpm&u=>> wrote in message
> >>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> I have a desktop running ME with a dial up connection, and

a
> >>> laptop running
> >>> XP with a wireless connection to the desktop. I can
> >>> transfer files in a
> >>> limited way using the desktop (cannot use laptop to move
> >>> files to the
> >>> desktop, but can used desktop to move files back and forth
> >>> to the laptop),
> >>> and cannot get any internet connection for the laptop. Im
> >>> using linksys
> >>> wireless g WEP encrypted. Anyone know something I might

not
> >>> have set up
> >>> correctly for the ICS? Also, I keep running into the XPs
> >>> need to enter a
> >>> password to access the shared files on the desktop. Any

help
> >>> is truly
> >>> appreciated. Thanks.
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >> You don't seem to have set up ICS.
> >>
> >> You also should know that WEP encryption -- which unfortunately is the
> >> best you can do with XP in an ad hoc network -- is quite easily cracked
> >> these days. You really should buy yourself a wireless router. They're
> >> not very expensive, and in addition to permitting the use of better
> >> encryption, will provide you a layer of protection (NAT plus, in many
> >> cases, a built-in firewall) from Internet nasties.
> >>
> >> Here's a (now obsolescent) article by MS-MVP Barb Bowman explaining how
> >> to set up ICS using a wireless ad hoc connection:
> >>

> >

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...wman_02april08.
> > mspx
> >> The article is based on XP, but I assume that ICS in WinME works

> > similarly.
> >> --
> >> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
> >>
> >> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

> >
> > Right now I'm more concerned about getting the network going than the
> > security. I cant use a router because they require a high speed

connection
> > and I don't have that. Also, I do have ICS set up on the ME desktop
> > already. What gives you the idea that its not set up? Is there

something
> > indicated in the ipconfig stuff or is this just a guess? Thanks, but

I've
> > tried looking at that webpage already.
> > B
> >
> >

>
> When you share an Internet connection with another network adapter using
> ICS, the second adapter (the one to which your LAN is connected) is
> assigned an IP address of 192.169.0.1. ICS includes a "DHCP Allocator"
> which assigns IP addresses (and the gateway address) to adapters on the
> local network. These are in the subnet 192.168.0.x


When you say network adapter, are you talking about a router? If so, this
network doesnt have a router. It has a pci card and a usb adapter in an ad
hoc network, there is no router. The two machines are set up to only talk
to each other directly, not through a router. Its like having a crossover
ethernet cable between them. They worked fine with the cable, and shared
the internet connection. They just wont do it over wireless for some
reason. Ill look into the IP addresses, but Im not sure that is the
problem. The DHCP is what is assigning the IPs now.
>
> Thus, when ICS is correctly set up, the wireless adapter in your desktop
> should have an IP address of 192.168.0.1 and the wireless adapter in
> your laptop should have an IP address of 192.168.0.x (2 <= x <=254) and
> a Default Gateway of 192.168.0.1.
>
> In contrast, the wireless adapter in your WinME desktop has an
> APIPA-type IP address of 169.254.4.40 and the wireless adapter in your
> laptop has a similar IP address of 169.254.177.184. Although these two
> IP addresses allow the two computers to communicate in an ad hoc
> wireless network, it is not an ICS network.
>
> This MSKB article describes setting up ICS in WinMe:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229829
>
> Here are some manual steps that work in XP; I don't know how closely the
> correspond to what's available in Me (see
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126/):
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder.
> 2. Right-click the ICSHARE Adapter connection.
> 3. Click Properties.
> 4. Click Advanced.
> 5. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
> through this computer's Internet connection.
> 6. If there's a box that says "Select a private network connection",
> click the arrow and select the wireless-G USB adapter connection.
>
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer


Thanks,
Brian


 
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Brian O wrote:

>
> When you say network adapter, are you talking about a router? If so, this
> network doesnt have a router. It has a pci card and a usb adapter in an ad
> hoc network, there is no router. The two machines are set up to only talk
> to each other directly, not through a router. Its like having a crossover
> ethernet cable between them. They worked fine with the cable, and shared
> the internet connection. They just wont do it over wireless for some
> reason. Ill look into the IP addresses, but Im not sure that is the
> problem. The DHCP is what is assigning the IPs now.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
>

No, "network adapter" is the piece of hardware in a computer that
permits the computer to connect to a network. It could be an Ethernet
pci card (in your desktop, this is the HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
Adapter) or it could be a USB wireless network adapter (in your desktop,
this is the Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter).

Your desktop appears to have 4 network adapters. Because the one with
the external IP address is called "ICSHARE" perhaps what you have done
is to enable ICS but share the Internet connection with one of the
network adapters that is NOT the wireless adapter, most likely the HP
EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter. What I can tell, as explained below,
is that you have not shared the Internet connection with the wireless
adapter in your desktop.

[I just re-read your post and saw the statement, "They worked fine with
the cable." If you previously had set this system up using ICS and a
cross-over cable and it was working fine, you almost certainly have
shared the Internet connection with the Ethernet adapter in the desktop,
as I guessed in the paragraph above. You have to re-configure ICS to
share the Internet connection with the wireless adapter, and then things
will work.]

You say that "The DHCP is what is assigning the IPs now." It's is not,
and that's exactly the point. "Normally," a DHCP server DOES assign IP
addresses. But because you don't have a router, there is no DHCP server
in your local network to assign these addresses.

Your ISP has a DHCP server. It has indeed assigned an IP address:
216.50.243.13. That IP address was assigned, by your ISP, to the
connection identified as "ICSHARE Adapter." What is this device? As an
aside, the IP address indicated for the DHCP server, 255.255.255.255, is
incorrect, so there is something peculiar going on here.

The IP address 216.50.243.13 identifies you to the Internet. For
example, if you go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ (or a similar website),
this is the IP address that will be reported (note that it may change
each time you connect to your ISP).

You can only connect ONE computer (at a time) directly to your ISP, and
you only get ONE IP address from your ISP. The other computers in your
"local area network" do NOT get their IP addresses from the ISP. These
computers get their IP addresses in one of three ways:

1. From a router, which has its own built-in DHCP server. You don't
have one of these.

2. From Windows ICS, which includes a software DHCP server (ICS calls
this a "DHCP Allocator"). The ICS DHCP Allocator ALWAYS generates IP
addresses in the range 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.254.

3. From Windows itself. This is called "Automatic Private IP
Addressing" or APIPA. APIPA addresses are ALWAYS in the in the private
range 169.254.0.1 to 169.254.255.254.

You are correct. Your computers are set up to talk to each other using
the two wireless adapters instead of a crossover cable. These two
adapters have IP addresses of 169.254.4.40 and 169.254.177.184.
Although these two addresses are on the same subnet and can therefore
communicate with each other, they are assigned by APIPA, and not by an
ICS DHCP allocator. Thus, your computers can talk to each other, but
they are not sharing the Internet connection.


--
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To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
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