Actiontec Mi424 + Jetdirect

Ahoy all...I have a slightly odd problem here, wonder if anyone could
help. I have a networked HP laserjet working fine within a home
network, with its own IP and all. The internet connection is Verizon
FIOS, with a fixed IP and Actiontec Mi424 router. I'd like to be able
to print to the printer from outside the network (I know it works with
a Linksys router) by opening up port 9100 to the outside world. I've
tried to set it up but printing to the IP address on the network using
port 9100 fails...anyone who knows the Actiontec "MegaControl Panel"
want to take a shot at this?

On Feb 28, 11:42 pm, Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ahoy all...I have a slightly odd problem here, wonder if anyone could
> help. I have a networked HP laserjet working fine within a home
> network, with its own IP and all. The internet connection is Verizon
> FIOS, with a fixed IP and Actiontec Mi424 router. I'd like to be able
> to print to the printer from outside the network (I know it works with
> a Linksys router) by opening up port 9100 to the outside world. I've
> tried to set it up but printing to the IP address on the network using
> port 9100 fails...anyone who knows the Actiontec "MegaControl Panel"
> want to take a shot at this?

Your local IPs are "private", meaning that they are not routable out-
there.

You might get "port-forwarding" to work, where the router sends
packets
addressed to its "real" external interface IP and port like 9100 to
IP you specify of some internal interface, and port. Ideally,
fixed. :')

Manual says that this works for only one IP. Of course, you only have
one "real" IP to send packets to. You do know how to find that, no?

Took me some time to get manual for that router from Verizon.

Then you have to configure client IP printing. And hope the world
doesn't
pound your printer.

J

I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.

And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.

On Mar 1, 12:10 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
> On Feb 28, 11:42 pm, Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Ahoy all...I have a slightly odd problem here, wonder if anyone could
> > help. I have a networked HP laserjet working fine within a home
> > network, with its own IP and all. The internet connection is Verizon
> > FIOS, with a fixed IP and Actiontec Mi424 router. I'd like to be able
> > to print to the printer from outside the network (I know it works with
> > a Linksys router) by opening up port 9100 to the outside world. I've
> > tried to set it up but printing to the IP address on the network using
> > port 9100 fails...anyone who knows the Actiontec "MegaControl Panel"
> > want to take a shot at this?
>
> Your local IPs are "private", meaning that they are not routable out-
> there.
>
> You might get "port-forwarding" to work, where the router sends
> packets
> addressed to its "real" external interface IP and port like 9100 to
> IP you specify of some internal interface, and port. Ideally,
> fixed. :')
>
> Manual says that this works for only one IP. Of course, you only have
> one "real" IP to send packets to. You do know how to find that, no?
>
> Took me some time to get manual for that router from Verizon.
>
> Then you have to configure client IP printing. And hope the world
> doesn't
> pound your printer.
>
> J

Okay. How do you know it doesn't work? You might want to
find some FAQ on port-forwarding and other aspects of firewalls,
to get an understanding of subject.

Router forwards external "real" IPort to internal IPort. To
have that happen, external host would have to send to that
public IPort. Which should be in the logical printer config,
and may well be the tricky part.

Meaning, on setting up a wireless print-server, the process
involved downloading an executable from that server to each
pc, to set up IP printing to the physical printer. (via IPort.)

J

On Mar 2, 12:36 am, Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
> sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
> 9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.
>
> And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
> up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.
>
> On Mar 1, 12:10 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
>
> > On Feb 28, 11:42 pm, Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Ahoy all...I have a slightly odd problem here, wonder if anyone could
> > > help. I have a networked HP laserjet working fine within a home
> > > network, with its own IP and all. The internet connection is Verizon
> > > FIOS, with a fixed IP and Actiontec Mi424 router. I'd like to be able
> > > to print to the printer from outside the network (I know it works with
> > > a Linksys router) by opening up port 9100 to the outside world. I've
> > > tried to set it up but printing to the IP address on the network using
> > > port 9100 fails...anyone who knows the Actiontec "MegaControl Panel"
> > > want to take a shot at this?
>
> > Your local IPs are "private", meaning that they are not routable out-
> > there.
>
> > You might get "port-forwarding" to work, where the router sends
> > packets
> > addressed to its "real" external interface IP and port like 9100 to
> > IP you specify of some internal interface, and port. Ideally,
> > fixed. :')
>
> > Manual says that this works for only one IP. Of course, you only have
> > one "real" IP to send packets to. You do know how to find that, no?
>
> > Took me some time to get manual for that router from Verizon.
>
> > Then you have to configure client IP printing. And hope the world
> > doesn't
> > pound your printer.
>
> > J

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
> sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
> 9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.
>
> And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
> up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.
>
Default guide for Port Forwarding:-
http://portforward.com/english/route...WR/default.htm

How did you check to see if it worked?
Did your test computer have the correct printer driver installed?

I'm sorry if I've been unclear...I recognize I was a bit cryptic
earlier. I set up a port forwarding that should work pursuant to the
instructions given, but the documents fail to go through. The way I
tested was to set up two printers. The first was to print to the LAN
IP, the second was to print to the WAN IP, which would forward to the
LAN IP. Setup for the WAN printer was simply to specify the IP, since
for a jetdirect it uses the proper port automatically (when it
couldn't detect the printer type I specified Jetdirect). Only the LAN
printing worked.

I know there could be some config element that I'm missing, but on
another network I have a Laserjet 4 on the network, linked to the
outside world via a port forward of 9100 to the printer IP through a
Linksys WRT-class router, and it's worked without a single hitch.

On Mar 4, 8:25 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
> > sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
> > 9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.
>
> > And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
> > up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.
>
> Default guide for Port Forwarding:-http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/MI-4...
>
> How did you check to see if it worked?
> Did your test computer have the correct printer driver installed?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I'm sorry if I've been unclear...I recognize I was a bit cryptic
> earlier. I set up a port forwarding that should work pursuant to the
> instructions given, but the documents fail to go through. The way I
> tested was to set up two printers. The first was to print to the LAN
> IP, the second was to print to the WAN IP, which would forward to the
> LAN IP.
> Setup for the WAN printer was simply to specify the IP

This I find confusing. You have sent out a print request on your WAN IP
, provided by you, which will go via port 9100 and you expect it to loop
back to the same IP address and then forward via port 9100 to your
printer? In the past to get loopback on a router I had to use a
"loopback plug"
e.g.http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/soft...oopback25.html
I cut up an old ethernet cable with plugs attached and soldered the
appropriate wires together.
I haven't tried this for several years so don't know whether it will
work for you.
Have you tried getting someone from the "outside world" to try and print
via your Actiontec?

>, since
> for a jetdirect it uses the proper port automatically (when it
> couldn't detect the printer type I specified Jetdirect). Only the LAN
> printing worked.
>
> I know there could be some config element that I'm missing, but on
> another network I have a Laserjet 4 on the network, linked to the
> outside world via a port forward of 9100 to the printer IP through a
> Linksys WRT-class router, and it's worked without a single hitch.
>
> On Mar 4, 8:25 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
>>> sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
>>> 9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.
>>> And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
>>> up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.
>> Default guide for Port Forwarding:-http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/MI-4...
>>
>> How did you check to see if it worked?
>> Did your test computer have the correct printer driver installed?
>
>

I forgot to ask if you had tried hard wiring your PC to the WAN port and
used port forwarding.
If you gave your router an IP of 10.10.10.1 and your PC NIC an IP of
10.10.10.2 and tried to print , what happens?

On Mar 6, 4:36 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm sorry if I've been unclear...I recognize I was a bit cryptic
> > earlier. I set up a port forwarding that should work pursuant to the
> > instructions given, but the documents fail to go through. The way I
> > tested was to set up two printers. The first was to print to the LAN
> > IP, the second was to print to the WAN IP, which would forward to the
> > LAN IP.
>
> > Setup for the WAN printer was simply to specify the IP
>
> This I find confusing. You have sent out a print request on your WAN IP
> , provided by you, which will go via port 9100 and you expect it to loop
> back to the same IP address and then forward via port 9100 to your
> printer? In the past to get loopback on a router I had to use a
> "loopback plug"
> e.g.http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/soft...aces/html/fe-g...
> I cut up an old ethernet cable with plugs attached and soldered the
> appropriate wires together.
> I haven't tried this for several years so don't know whether it will
> work for you.
> Have you tried getting someone from the "outside world" to try and print
> via yourActiontec?
>
>
>
> >, since
> > for a jetdirect it uses the proper port automatically (when it
> > couldn't detect the printer type I specified Jetdirect). Only the LAN
> > printing worked.
>
> > I know there could be some config element that I'm missing, but on
> > another network I have a Laserjet 4 on the network, linked to the
> > outside world via a port forward of 9100 to the printer IP through a
> > Linksys WRT-class router, and it's worked without a single hitch.
>
> > On Mar 4, 8:25 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Ubtertr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I've tried to set up port forwarding...it doesn't work, and I'm not
> >>> sure why. I set up a RAW protocol with the router, and I have port
> >>> 9100 forwarding to the IP inside the router, but it doesn't go.
> >>> And if the world pounds the printer, I'll turn it off. I've set this
> >>> up elsewhere on a Linksys router without a problem.
> >> Default guide for Port Forwarding:-http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/MI-4...
>
> >> How did you check to see if it worked?
> >> Did your test computer have the correct printer driver installed?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I actually just tried it from a remote computer, and ran into the same
problem...it didn't go through. I guess I'm just scratching my head
wondering why.