98se to XP and more....

Hope I can explain this, new user of networking.

Have 6 systems in office, Dell xp computer acting as a server. Cable high
speed internet.
4x XP's plus server and 2x 98SE's.
Internet access is no problem on all systems.

All systems are working except 1x 98se which is in back office and running
on wireless connection (Netgear WG311v2 802.11 wireless PCI adapter).
One agent has a wireless xp laptop that connects just fine.

Would like to have 3x systems running as one workgroup and 3x running
another. They do totally different things and would like to keep them
seperate. In fact, they are different businesses with different employeess,
etc.etc. One insurance and one real estate.

Here's the questions/problem-
1. Can't connect the wireless to the workgroup. I loaded/ran the XP Network
Setup Wizard on both 98se machines. The 98se that's wired sees everything
and works great except for one small printing problem to XP.
The wireless ( I had a AOpen card in machine but removed) acts like it sees
everything but I get an error msg when I try click on server/other
systems/machine 1,2,3 (other machines) that reads ~ cannot connect.

Suggestion to try...


2. Can I set up the 3 systems that run the RE office as a sperate workgroup?
If yes, how?

Sorry this is soo long but I've been told to give as much detail as
possible.

Ps The printing problem I'm having is the 98se to the xp printer. Have two
HP722c and the xp loaded it's own driver (722c) and can print to the 98se
but the 98se run off a 720c factory cd loaded driver. No big deal.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "L/P"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hope I can explain this, new user of networking.
>
>Have 6 systems in office, Dell xp computer acting as a server. Cable high
>speed internet.
>4x XP's plus server and 2x 98SE's.
>Internet access is no problem on all systems.
>
>All systems are working except 1x 98se which is in back office and running
>on wireless connection (Netgear WG311v2 802.11 wireless PCI adapter).
>One agent has a wireless xp laptop that connects just fine.
>
>Would like to have 3x systems running as one workgroup and 3x running
>another. They do totally different things and would like to keep them
>seperate. In fact, they are different businesses with different employeess,
>etc.etc. One insurance and one real estate.
>
>Here's the questions/problem-
>1. Can't connect the wireless to the workgroup. I loaded/ran the XP Network
>Setup Wizard on both 98se machines. The 98se that's wired sees everything
>and works great except for one small printing problem to XP.
>The wireless ( I had a AOpen card in machine but removed) acts like it sees
>everything but I get an error msg when I try click on server/other
>systems/machine 1,2,3 (other machines) that reads ~ cannot connect.
>
>Suggestion to try...
>
>
>2. Can I set up the 3 systems that run the RE office as a sperate workgroup?
>If yes, how?
>
>Sorry this is soo long but I've been told to give as much detail as
>possible.
>
>Ps The printing problem I'm having is the 98se to the xp printer. Have two
>HP722c and the xp loaded it's own driver (722c) and can print to the 98se
>but the 98se run off a 720c factory cd loaded driver. No big deal.

1. How are you trying to access other computers from the wireless 98se
machine? What exactly happens when you do it? What is the complete
text of the error message?

2. You can set up separate workgroups for the RE and the Insurance
computers, but it won't do what you want. Workgroups don't provide
any type of security or access control. A computer in any workgroup
can access a computer in any other workgroup.

To separate the two groups of computers while giving Internet access
to all of them, use three broadband routers:

A. Connect the high-speed Internet connection (cable modem, DSL modem,
etc) to the WAN port of Router #1. If Router #1 has a wireless
capability, disable it.

B. Connect the WAN ports of Routers #2 and #3 to LAN ports of Router
#1.

C. Connect the RE computers to Router #2, either wired to the LAN
ports or wireless.

D. Connect the Insurance computers to Router #3, either wired to the
LAN ports or wireless.

E. Use different LAN subnets on Routers #2 and #3 than on #1. For
example, if #1 uses 192.168.1.x, use 192.168.0.x on #2 and #3.

F. Use different wireless network names (SSID) on Routers #2 and #3.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Wow, (instruction) will talk to other owner and see what he wants to do.
To followup. We named three systems on insurance side insurance1,2,3 and 3
on my side wabash1,2,3(name of bisuess) plus the server. All working under
Mshome workgroup.

The main problem is getting the wireless system to connect.
I ran a test and can ping the other 98se and XP system on my side of
business. Didn't try other systems.
When I click on Network Neighborhood(98se wireless), I can see one insurance
system(insurance1) and the XP system on my side(wabash1) plus the wireless
(wabash2).
I cannot see the other 2 insurance system, server or the 98se machine.

When I click on any of the icons for systems, except wabash2, I get an error
that states ~ "cannot find system, please check spelling, etc.etc. and try
again". Not at office so can't tell you exactly what it says at this point.
The other 98se system (#3 hardwired) sees everything and can open them all.
The xp system, my side, show everything also but in different format. It
shows folders in each system.

L.
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "L/P"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Hope I can explain this, new user of networking.
>>
>>Have 6 systems in office, Dell xp computer acting as a server. Cable high
>>speed internet.
>>4x XP's plus server and 2x 98SE's.
>>Internet access is no problem on all systems.
>>
>>All systems are working except 1x 98se which is in back office and running
>>on wireless connection (Netgear WG311v2 802.11 wireless PCI adapter).
>>One agent has a wireless xp laptop that connects just fine.
>>
>>Would like to have 3x systems running as one workgroup and 3x running
>>another. They do totally different things and would like to keep them
>>seperate. In fact, they are different businesses with different
>>employeess,
>>etc.etc. One insurance and one real estate.
>>
>>Here's the questions/problem-
>>1. Can't connect the wireless to the workgroup. I loaded/ran the XP
>>Network
>>Setup Wizard on both 98se machines. The 98se that's wired sees everything
>>and works great except for one small printing problem to XP.
>>The wireless ( I had a AOpen card in machine but removed) acts like it
>>sees
>>everything but I get an error msg when I try click on server/other
>>systems/machine 1,2,3 (other machines) that reads ~ cannot connect.
>>
>>Suggestion to try...
>>
>>
>>2. Can I set up the 3 systems that run the RE office as a sperate
>>workgroup?
>>If yes, how?
>>
>>Sorry this is soo long but I've been told to give as much detail as
>>possible.
>>
>>Ps The printing problem I'm having is the 98se to the xp printer. Have
>>two
>>HP722c and the xp loaded it's own driver (722c) and can print to the 98se
>>but the 98se run off a 720c factory cd loaded driver. No big deal.
>
> 1. How are you trying to access other computers from the wireless 98se
> machine? What exactly happens when you do it? What is the complete
> text of the error message?
>
> 2. You can set up separate workgroups for the RE and the Insurance
> computers, but it won't do what you want. Workgroups don't provide
> any type of security or access control. A computer in any workgroup
> can access a computer in any other workgroup.
>
> To separate the two groups of computers while giving Internet access
> to all of them, use three broadband routers:
>
> A. Connect the high-speed Internet connection (cable modem, DSL modem,
> etc) to the WAN port of Router #1. If Router #1 has a wireless
> capability, disable it.
>
> B. Connect the WAN ports of Routers #2 and #3 to LAN ports of Router
> #1.
>
> C. Connect the RE computers to Router #2, either wired to the LAN
> ports or wireless.
>
> D. Connect the Insurance computers to Router #3, either wired to the
> LAN ports or wireless.
>
> E. Use different LAN subnets on Routers #2 and #3 than on #1. For
> example, if #1 uses 192.168.1.x, use 192.168.0.x on #2 and #3.
>
> F. Use different wireless network names (SSID) on Routers #2 and #3.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Another followup.
I have Zone Alarm on all RE systems but uninstalled on the wireless system
to see if that was stopping it.
It doesn't interfere on the other two machines.

"L/P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OntIo4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Wow, (instruction) will talk to other owner and see what he wants to do.
> To followup. We named three systems on insurance side insurance1,2,3 and 3
> on my side wabash1,2,3(name of bisuess) plus the server. All working under
> Mshome workgroup.
>
> The main problem is getting the wireless system to connect.
> I ran a test and can ping the other 98se and XP system on my side of
> business. Didn't try other systems.
> When I click on Network Neighborhood(98se wireless), I can see one
> insurance system(insurance1) and the XP system on my side(wabash1) plus
> the wireless (wabash2).
> I cannot see the other 2 insurance system, server or the 98se machine.
>
> When I click on any of the icons for systems, except wabash2, I get an
> error that states ~ "cannot find system, please check spelling, etc.etc.
> and try again". Not at office so can't tell you exactly what it says at
> this point.
> The other 98se system (#3 hardwired) sees everything and can open them
> all. The xp system, my side, show everything also but in different format.
> It shows folders in each system.
>
> L.
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "L/P"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Hope I can explain this, new user of networking.
>>>
>>>Have 6 systems in office, Dell xp computer acting as a server. Cable high
>>>speed internet.
>>>4x XP's plus server and 2x 98SE's.
>>>Internet access is no problem on all systems.
>>>
>>>All systems are working except 1x 98se which is in back office and
>>>running
>>>on wireless connection (Netgear WG311v2 802.11 wireless PCI adapter).
>>>One agent has a wireless xp laptop that connects just fine.
>>>
>>>Would like to have 3x systems running as one workgroup and 3x running
>>>another. They do totally different things and would like to keep them
>>>seperate. In fact, they are different businesses with different
>>>employeess,
>>>etc.etc. One insurance and one real estate.
>>>
>>>Here's the questions/problem-
>>>1. Can't connect the wireless to the workgroup. I loaded/ran the XP
>>>Network
>>>Setup Wizard on both 98se machines. The 98se that's wired sees everything
>>>and works great except for one small printing problem to XP.
>>>The wireless ( I had a AOpen card in machine but removed) acts like it
>>>sees
>>>everything but I get an error msg when I try click on server/other
>>>systems/machine 1,2,3 (other machines) that reads ~ cannot connect.
>>>
>>>Suggestion to try...
>>>
>>>
>>>2. Can I set up the 3 systems that run the RE office as a sperate
>>>workgroup?
>>>If yes, how?
>>>
>>>Sorry this is soo long but I've been told to give as much detail as
>>>possible.
>>>
>>>Ps The printing problem I'm having is the 98se to the xp printer. Have
>>>two
>>>HP722c and the xp loaded it's own driver (722c) and can print to the 98se
>>>but the 98se run off a 720c factory cd loaded driver. No big deal.
>>
>> 1. How are you trying to access other computers from the wireless 98se
>> machine? What exactly happens when you do it? What is the complete
>> text of the error message?
>>
>> 2. You can set up separate workgroups for the RE and the Insurance
>> computers, but it won't do what you want. Workgroups don't provide
>> any type of security or access control. A computer in any workgroup
>> can access a computer in any other workgroup.
>>
>> To separate the two groups of computers while giving Internet access
>> to all of them, use three broadband routers:
>>
>> A. Connect the high-speed Internet connection (cable modem, DSL modem,
>> etc) to the WAN port of Router #1. If Router #1 has a wireless
>> capability, disable it.
>>
>> B. Connect the WAN ports of Routers #2 and #3 to LAN ports of Router
>> #1.
>>
>> C. Connect the RE computers to Router #2, either wired to the LAN
>> ports or wireless.
>>
>> D. Connect the Insurance computers to Router #3, either wired to the
>> LAN ports or wireless.
>>
>> E. Use different LAN subnets on Routers #2 and #3 than on #1. For
>> example, if #1 uses 192.168.1.x, use 192.168.0.x on #2 and #3.
>>
>> F. Use different wireless network names (SSID) on Routers #2 and #3.
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
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