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David W. Baulch
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      10-20-2004, 01:33 AM
I have a labful (33) of Dell computers, most running 98SE, but 10 running
XP. The rest of the building has the same, but over 100 computers added to
the 33 I have. When the DHCP was changed from one server to another and a
blade replaced (24 ports), my IP conflicts became worse and worse. I lost my
printers (dynamic, not static IPs) and was not able to release the IPs to
have the computers get a new IP. (These were the 98SEs, not the XPs.) I was
told that 98SE did not like to relinquish its IPs and would really have to
be "disabled" to have it search and come up with a new IP. Is this true? If
so, what can be done? Do I need to go and work at the server level or the
client level to get this corrected?

I am just looking for some answers so I know sometiyhng about what is going
on and can make the information plain to those who will eventually take care
of the problem, unless I can do it before they begin. I anyone knows the
answer, thank you in advance. Books can only take me so far, and I can only
get so deep into the hardware end.

David


 
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      10-20-2004, 11:46 AM

"David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a labful (33) of Dell computers, most running 98SE, but 10 running
> XP. The rest of the building has the same, but over 100 computers added to
> the 33 I have. When the DHCP was changed from one server to another and a
> blade replaced (24 ports), my IP conflicts became worse and worse. I lost
> my
> printers (dynamic, not static IPs) and was not able to release the IPs to
> have the computers get a new IP. (These were the 98SEs, not the XPs.) I
> was
> told that 98SE did not like to relinquish its IPs and would really have to
> be "disabled" to have it search and come up with a new IP. Is this true?
> If
> so, what can be done? Do I need to go and work at the server level or the
> client level to get this corrected?
>
> I am just looking for some answers so I know sometiyhng about what is
> going
> on and can make the information plain to those who will eventually take
> care
> of the problem, unless I can do it before they begin. I anyone knows the
> answer, thank you in advance. Books can only take me so far, and I can
> only
> get so deep into the hardware end.
>
> David
>
>


on win98 goto start>run>winipcfg then release and renew to get new DHCP
assigned IP (or wait for the lease to expire)


 
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David W. Baulch
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      10-23-2004, 02:19 AM
Thanks, but I already tried the release and renew, release all and renew
all. Not only did it not "take" in most of the cases it would NOT let go or
even re-anything. Waiting for the expiration was next ... but it does not
seem to work either. With the expiration, it tries to grab the same one,
again -or- the server still tries to give out the IP that it has already
given out. The next step is to move from a class "C" license to a class "B"
and hope that frees up enough to give more room, and room for more
expansion.

Thanks again.
"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:lfjdd.7652$(E-Mail Removed) m...
> >I have a labful (33) of Dell computers, most running 98SE, but 10 running
> > XP. The rest of the building has the same, but over 100 computers added

to
> > the 33 I have. When the DHCP was changed from one server to another and

a
> > blade replaced (24 ports), my IP conflicts became worse and worse. I

lost
> > my
> > printers (dynamic, not static IPs) and was not able to release the IPs

to
> > have the computers get a new IP. (These were the 98SEs, not the XPs.) I
> > was
> > told that 98SE did not like to relinquish its IPs and would really have

to
> > be "disabled" to have it search and come up with a new IP. Is this true?
> > If
> > so, what can be done? Do I need to go and work at the server level or

the
> > client level to get this corrected?
> >
> > I am just looking for some answers so I know sometiyhng about what is
> > going
> > on and can make the information plain to those who will eventually take
> > care
> > of the problem, unless I can do it before they begin. I anyone knows the
> > answer, thank you in advance. Books can only take me so far, and I can
> > only
> > get so deep into the hardware end.
> >
> > David
> >
> >

>
> on win98 goto start>run>winipcfg then release and renew to get new

DHCP
> assigned IP (or wait for the lease to expire)
>
>



 
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      10-23-2004, 09:02 PM
Problem Solved. A download of an updated driver for the Fast Ethernet card
was the answer. Once installed and updated, the release and renew worked
quickly and correctly. Now the IP addresses are the new addresses and the
entire system seems to be taking the change-over quite well. They did,
however, change out the 4000 series Cisco for a 6500 series Cisco. More
power and, with the new programming, more IPs that gets us up and running.
IT and IS gets a big "high-five" for the speed. Took less than 4 hours for
the full changeover between two data cabinets, putting everything back in,
re-programming, and final checks. So, until the next time something goes
awry, thanks for listening.

David

"David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks, but I already tried the release and renew, release all and renew
> all. Not only did it not "take" in most of the cases it would NOT let go

or
> even re-anything. Waiting for the expiration was next ... but it does not
> seem to work either. With the expiration, it tries to grab the same one,
> again -or- the server still tries to give out the IP that it has already
> given out. The next step is to move from a class "C" license to a class

"B"
> and hope that frees up enough to give more room, and room for more
> expansion.
>
> Thanks again.
> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:lfjdd.7652$(E-Mail Removed) m...
> > >I have a labful (33) of Dell computers, most running 98SE, but 10

running
> > > XP. The rest of the building has the same, but over 100 computers

added
> to
> > > the 33 I have. When the DHCP was changed from one server to another

and
> a
> > > blade replaced (24 ports), my IP conflicts became worse and worse. I

> lost
> > > my
> > > printers (dynamic, not static IPs) and was not able to release the IPs


> to
> > > have the computers get a new IP. (These were the 98SEs, not the XPs.)

I
> > > was
> > > told that 98SE did not like to relinquish its IPs and would really

have
> to
> > > be "disabled" to have it search and come up with a new IP. Is this

true?
> > > If
> > > so, what can be done? Do I need to go and work at the server level or

> the
> > > client level to get this corrected?
> > >
> > > I am just looking for some answers so I know sometiyhng about what is
> > > going
> > > on and can make the information plain to those who will eventually

take
> > > care
> > > of the problem, unless I can do it before they begin. I anyone knows

the
> > > answer, thank you in advance. Books can only take me so far, and I can
> > > only
> > > get so deep into the hardware end.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >

> >
> > on win98 goto start>run>winipcfg then release and renew to get new

> DHCP
> > assigned IP (or wait for the lease to expire)
> >
> >

>
>



 
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      10-25-2004, 11:51 AM
Glad you got somewhere with that :>


"David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Problem Solved. A download of an updated driver for the Fast Ethernet card
> was the answer. Once installed and updated, the release and renew worked
> quickly and correctly. Now the IP addresses are the new addresses and the
> entire system seems to be taking the change-over quite well. They did,
> however, change out the 4000 series Cisco for a 6500 series Cisco. More
> power and, with the new programming, more IPs that gets us up and running.
> IT and IS gets a big "high-five" for the speed. Took less than 4 hours for
> the full changeover between two data cabinets, putting everything back in,
> re-programming, and final checks. So, until the next time something goes
> awry, thanks for listening.
>
> David
>
> "David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ucjed.9015$q%(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> Thanks, but I already tried the release and renew, release all and renew
>> all. Not only did it not "take" in most of the cases it would NOT let go

> or
>> even re-anything. Waiting for the expiration was next ... but it does not
>> seem to work either. With the expiration, it tries to grab the same one,
>> again -or- the server still tries to give out the IP that it has already
>> given out. The next step is to move from a class "C" license to a class

> "B"
>> and hope that frees up enough to give more room, and room for more
>> expansion.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >
>> > "David W. Baulch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:lfjdd.7652$(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> > >I have a labful (33) of Dell computers, most running 98SE, but 10

> running
>> > > XP. The rest of the building has the same, but over 100 computers

> added
>> to
>> > > the 33 I have. When the DHCP was changed from one server to another

> and
>> a
>> > > blade replaced (24 ports), my IP conflicts became worse and worse. I

>> lost
>> > > my
>> > > printers (dynamic, not static IPs) and was not able to release the
>> > > IPs

>
>> to
>> > > have the computers get a new IP. (These were the 98SEs, not the XPs.)

> I
>> > > was
>> > > told that 98SE did not like to relinquish its IPs and would really

> have
>> to
>> > > be "disabled" to have it search and come up with a new IP. Is this

> true?
>> > > If
>> > > so, what can be done? Do I need to go and work at the server level or

>> the
>> > > client level to get this corrected?
>> > >
>> > > I am just looking for some answers so I know sometiyhng about what is
>> > > going
>> > > on and can make the information plain to those who will eventually

> take
>> > > care
>> > > of the problem, unless I can do it before they begin. I anyone knows

> the
>> > > answer, thank you in advance. Books can only take me so far, and I
>> > > can
>> > > only
>> > > get so deep into the hardware end.
>> > >
>> > > David
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > on win98 goto start>run>winipcfg then release and renew to get new

>> DHCP
>> > assigned IP (or wait for the lease to expire)
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



 
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