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Jim Lyle
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      10-09-2003, 12:54 PM
My 98 machine can't talk to any of my 2000 machines.
Firewalls are disabled, I've tested all cables. ping
127.0.0.1 works fine, but I can't ping across any
platforms except from 2000 to 2000. I've reinstalled all
drivers a number of times. ip is 192.168.0.xxx (all three
are different) with subnet 255.255.255.0 (all three are
the same). Computer names are different and Work groups
are the same.

98 computer is listed in it's own network neighborhood
workgroup.

the other 2 (2000) computers are listed together on their
network neighborhood.
 
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Sam
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      10-09-2003, 03:57 PM
Win 98 must be able to login into a win 2000 machine , but
a win 2000 machine will never loginto a win 98 machine .
Now think after deep breath then try this set one win 2000
as admin and other computer as clients then log win98 in
as first client then log in last win 2000 machine this
will let you see all.well it should .It did for me that is

>-----Original Message-----
>My 98 machine can't talk to any of my 2000 machines.
>Firewalls are disabled, I've tested all cables. ping
>127.0.0.1 works fine, but I can't ping across any
>platforms except from 2000 to 2000. I've reinstalled all
>drivers a number of times. ip is 192.168.0.xxx (all three
>are different) with subnet 255.255.255.0 (all three are
>the same). Computer names are different and Work groups
>are the same.
>
>98 computer is listed in it's own network neighborhood
>workgroup.
>
>the other 2 (2000) computers are listed together on their
>network neighborhood.
>.
>

 
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The Alt
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      10-09-2003, 11:30 PM
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:57:30 -0700, "Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Win 98 must be able to login into a win 2000 machine , but
>a win 2000 machine will never loginto a win 98 machine


Not sure what the above references. If "loginto" means accessing a
shared drive on another computer, there is no reason why a 2000 based
computer can not access a shared drive on a Win98 machine.

If this is just a small network, then install Netbeui on all machines
and your headaches should go away. Netbeui is Microsoft "Lan"
protocol as opposed to TCP/IP which is generally considered a "WAN"
protocol. Make sure that file sharing is installed on the 98
Machines. You might consider not sharing under TCP/IP which will
remove most of the possibility of someone accessing your local shared
drives.

Please understand that there are other ways to resolve your issue.
This is just the easiest.

Regards,
The Alt
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      10-10-2003, 05:10 AM
In article <0ee501c38e7e$0b40de90$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Sam"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>In article <2637801c38e64$6c4438f0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jim Lyle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>My 98 machine can't talk to any of my 2000 machines.
>>Firewalls are disabled, I've tested all cables. ping
>>127.0.0.1 works fine, but I can't ping across any
>>platforms except from 2000 to 2000. I've reinstalled all
>>drivers a number of times. ip is 192.168.0.xxx (all three
>>are different) with subnet 255.255.255.0 (all three are
>>the same). Computer names are different and Work groups
>>are the same.
>>
>>98 computer is listed in it's own network neighborhood
>>workgroup.
>>
>>the other 2 (2000) computers are listed together on their
>>network neighborhood.
>>

>Win 98 must be able to login into a win 2000 machine , but
>a win 2000 machine will never loginto a win 98 machine .
>Now think after deep breath then try this set one win 2000
>as admin and other computer as clients then log win98 in
>as first client then log in last win 2000 machine this
>will let you see all.well it should .It did for me that is


I don't think that Jim's problem is related to logging on, Sam.
Pinging happens at a lower level of the network than that.

Are you pinging by IP address or by computer name, Jim? Pinging by
computer name requires NetBIOS over TCP/IP to be enabled on all
computers, but pinging by IP address doesn't.

Don't just disable the firewall programs. Un-install them while
troubleshooting the network.
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      10-10-2003, 05:12 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, The Alt
<Alt-Ctrl-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:57:30 -0700, "Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>Win 98 must be able to login into a win 2000 machine , but
>>a win 2000 machine will never loginto a win 98 machine

>
>Not sure what the above references. If "loginto" means accessing a
>shared drive on another computer, there is no reason why a 2000 based
>computer can not access a shared drive on a Win98 machine.
>
>If this is just a small network, then install Netbeui on all machines
>and your headaches should go away. Netbeui is Microsoft "Lan"
>protocol as opposed to TCP/IP which is generally considered a "WAN"
>protocol. Make sure that file sharing is installed on the 98
>Machines. You might consider not sharing under TCP/IP which will
>remove most of the possibility of someone accessing your local shared
>drives.
>
>Please understand that there are other ways to resolve your issue.
>This is just the easiest.
>
>Regards,
>The Alt


If installing NetBEUI solves the problem, then something is wrong with
the TCP/IP configuration. TCP/IP, by itself, is sufficient for all
Microsoft networking functions.

I disagree that TCP/IP is a "WAN" protocol. It's by far the most
widely-used LAN protocol in the world.

There's nothing wrong with using NetBEUI. However, nothing in Windows
networking requires, or has ever required, NetBEUI.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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