54g vs 802.11g

I believe I have read that 802.11g and 54g are not exactly the same. 54g is Broadcom's proprietary implementation of 802.11g?

Is there a real difference?

If I buy a laptop that specifies built-n 54g, but does not mention 802.11g (HP 5500 series, for instance; http://tinyurl.com/uvgo), will I be at any disadvantage?

I did some research before posting this question, including googling this group, but could not readily find an answer.

Thanks!
Marc

Marc,
Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB. I've
never heard of 54g???


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"Marc Sindell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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I believe I have read that 802.11g and 54g are not exactly the same. 54g is
Broadcom's proprietary implementation of 802.11g?

Is there a real difference?

If I buy a laptop that specifies built-n 54g, but does not mention 802.11g
(HP 5500 series, for instance; http://tinyurl.com/uvgo), will I be at any
disadvantage?

I did some research before posting this question, including googling this
group, but could not readily find an answer.

Thanks!
Marc

"GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:KiUsb.20112$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Marc,
> Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB. I've
> never heard of 54g???

See http://www.54g.org/
Also follow the HP link in my original post. Some manufacturers call their high-speed wireless 54g, and never mention 802.11g.

Marc

> "Marc Sindell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bp0bpn$1jg8nv$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I believe I have read that 802.11g and 54g are not exactly the same. 54g is
> Broadcom's proprietary implementation of 802.11g?
>
> Is there a real difference?
>
> If I buy a laptop that specifies built-n 54g, but does not mention 802.11g
> (HP 5500 series, for instance; http://tinyurl.com/uvgo), will I be at any
> disadvantage?
>
> I did some research before posting this question, including googling this
> group, but could not readily find an answer.
>
> Thanks!
> Marc
>
>

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:18:02 GMT, "GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Marc,
>Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB. I've
>never heard of 54g???

Linksys for one calls thier 802.11g "54g". I believe there are others
using the term as well.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:34:18 -0500, "Marc Sindell"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I believe I have read that 802.11g and 54g are not exactly the same. 54g is Broadcom's proprietary implementation of 802.11g?

AFAIK, 54g is just a marketing name for Broadcom, and is the same as
802.11g. Before the 802.11g spec was finalized, a lot of equipment
was being sold as wireless-G, 54g, whatever. I have a laptop w/the
broadcom 54g card in it, and it works fine with all the standard
equipment.

"Goz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:34:18 -0500, "Marc Sindell"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I believe I have read that 802.11g and 54g are not exactly the same. 54g
is Broadcom's proprietary implementation of 802.11g?
>
> AFAIK, 54g is just a marketing name for Broadcom, and is the same as
> 802.11g. Before the 802.11g spec was finalized, a lot of equipment
> was being sold as wireless-G, 54g, whatever. I have a laptop w/the
> broadcom 54g card in it, and it works fine with all the standard
> equipment.

Just a thought: much of the 802.11g hardware in the market is based on
Broadcom chipsets <g>

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:09:56 -0500, 123@456.789 wrote:

<On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:18:02 GMT, "GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)>
<wrote:
<
<>Marc,
<>Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB. I've
<>never heard of 54g???
<
<Linksys for one calls thier 802.11g "54g". I believe there are others
<using the term as well.

I just got one of these, a Wrt54g, and I think some of the confusion is that the
"g" standard is.... er... not yet a standard. The packaging says compatible with
Wireless-B(802.11b) & Wireless-G(draft 802.11g). In other places it refers to
Wireless-G(54Mbps). I knew when I bought it that "g" wasn't a finished thing.

hth-c.porter.

"Bart Keyes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:09:56 -0500, 123@456.789 wrote:
>
> <On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:18:02 GMT, "GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> <wrote:
> <
> <>Marc,
> <>Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB.
I've
> <>never heard of 54g???
> <
> <Linksys for one calls thier 802.11g "54g". I believe there are others
> <using the term as well.
>
> I just got one of these, a Wrt54g, and I think some of the confusion is
that the
> "g" standard is.... er... not yet a standard. The packaging says
compatible with
> Wireless-B(802.11b) & Wireless-G(draft 802.11g). In other places it refers
to
> Wireless-G(54Mbps). I knew when I bought it that "g" wasn't a finished
thing.
>
> hth-c.porter.
>

Actually "g" is standard now, every single company I have talked with has
confirmed this. Also the network guys where I work have said the same
thing. B is out...

Upgrade your hardware guys.

"Marc Sindell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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"GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Marc,
> Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to 54MB.
I've
> never heard of 54g???

See http://www.54g.org/
Also follow the HP link in my original post. Some manufacturers call their
high-speed wireless 54g, and never mention 802.11g.

Marc

Sounds like 54g is just another name for 11g but the same thing according to
other replies here.

Became a standard in June of this year. Every manufacturer for g has an
upgrade by now to conform to final standard. But the changes were minor, and
mostly had to do with b/g interoperability requirements.

"SSeaW" <SSeaW AT comcast DOT net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bart Keyes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:09:56 -0500, 123@456.789 wrote:
> >
> > <On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:18:02 GMT, "GuitarMan" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > <wrote:
> > <
> > <>Marc,
> > <>Are you sure you don't have this mixed up? 802.11g supports up to
54MB.
> I've
> > <>never heard of 54g???
> > <
> > <Linksys for one calls thier 802.11g "54g". I believe there are others
> > <using the term as well.
> >
> > I just got one of these, a Wrt54g, and I think some of the confusion is
> that the
> > "g" standard is.... er... not yet a standard. The packaging says
> compatible with
> > Wireless-B(802.11b) & Wireless-G(draft 802.11g). In other places it
refers
> to
> > Wireless-G(54Mbps). I knew when I bought it that "g" wasn't a finished
> thing.
> >
> > hth-c.porter.
> >
>
> Actually "g" is standard now, every single company I have talked with has
> confirmed this. Also the network guys where I work have said the same
> thing. B is out...
>
> Upgrade your hardware guys.
>
>