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simon
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      06-10-2005, 12:49 AM

I've just read this on the Zen board at ADSL Guide:

"Some premises have more RF noise (interference) than others. Where this
is a problem, the usual answer is a filtered placeplate with a short
Cat5 cable to a nearby router, so the RF interference pickup is
minimised.

Lots of people haven't seen any adverse effects from this in the past
because 512k is remarkably tolerant of poor signal quality. Higher
speeds are less tolerant."

Does this make any sense?

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      06-10-2005, 05:36 AM
Yes. Higher speeds give a lower Signal/noise ratio. Cat5 wire is twisted
and has interference rejection properties.


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> I've just read this on the Zen board at ADSL Guide:
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> "Some premises have more RF noise (interference) than others. Where this
> is a problem, the usual answer is a filtered placeplate with a short Cat5
> cable to a nearby router, so the RF interference pickup is minimised.
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> Lots of people haven't seen any adverse effects from this in the past
> because 512k is remarkably tolerant of poor signal quality. Higher speeds
> are less tolerant."
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> Does this make any sense?
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      06-10-2005, 07:21 AM
On 10 Jun 2005 06:36, "SteveB" <sbrads@nildramDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:

>Yes. Higher speeds give a lower Signal/noise ratio. Cat5 wire is twisted
>and has interference rejection properties.


I suspect you mean "Cat5 pairs are twisted" :-) Peter M.

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      06-10-2005, 08:54 AM
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:49:59 +0100, simon <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Does this make any sense?


faster speeds need either more channels or a higher signal to noise
ratio in the same channel (about 6 dB more to double the speed) so it
would be true to say that 512k is more tolerant than 1M but Home250
would be more tolerant still.

Some people who get upgrades to their maximum line speed have found
they had to drop back for better reliability.

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      06-10-2005, 03:14 PM
Bottom posting on a long post is more annoying than top posting. All that
scrolling to see if it's worth reading. I prefer to delete if the previous
post is long, it's neater, but I've made an exception in your case and done
it on a short post.


 
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      06-10-2005, 03:40 PM
On 10 Jun 2005 16:14, "SteveB" <sbrads@nildramDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:

>All that scrolling to see if it's worth reading.


I quite agree, when idiots cannot be bothered to trim what they post.

>Bottom posting on a long post is more annoying than top posting.


Of course, you won't change my view - it doesn't take many follow-ups to
see that reading responses prior to the piece they are replying to would
cause more confusion and makes nil sense. You carry on how you wish, of
course, but don't expect everyone to see your posts, or respond to them.


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      06-10-2005, 03:42 PM
On 10 Jun 2005 16:14, "SteveB" <sbrads@nildramDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:

>I've made an exception in your case and done it on a short post.


It also means you don't need to acknowledge the reason why I posted.
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      06-10-2005, 04:00 PM
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:14:25 +0100, "SteveB"
<sbrads@nildramDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:

> I prefer to delete if the previous
>post is long, it's neater, but I've made an exception in your case and done
>it on a short post.


thereby leaving your comment without context and similar to observing
a nutter shouting at a wall.

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      06-10-2005, 04:48 PM
On 10 Jun 2005 17:00, Phil Thompson wrote:

> similar to observing a nutter shouting at a wall.


LOL. Just reminded me of the area where I previously lived. Not quite
a nutter, just a religious zealot (or gang of them) who congregated at a
T-junction (fortunately they were on the opposite side of the road) each
Saturday morning, and shouted their thoughts to anyone who might care to
listen. Oh, OK, then... perhaps they were all nutters :-) Peter M.
 
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      06-11-2005, 03:39 PM
If someone writes you a snail mail letter in reply, your letter isn't at the
top is it? About all you might have got was a quote re. 'Your letter of
01/01/05' or something. That's the system that worked for a few hundred
years with no one complaining.

I've now changed the defaults on my news client so it never quotes the
previous post as an experiment to see how many complaints I get. Present
company excluded of course.


 
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