3 Storeys in House

Hey there.

I have one Dlink 614+ for up to 10 devices in a house. What floor should I
put it on, if I had a choice? Basement, Main Floor, upper floor?
Essentially people on every floor, and I don't want to go with another
access point as a repeater.

If I do need a repeater, what's a good repeater?

Cheers



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Malcolm Loades,

> Wireless signals travel between floors much better than they travel
> through walls (assuming that you don't have concrete floors). Situate
> it on the Main Floor and so long as your house doesn't have a very large
> square area, with lots of solid walls, you should be fine.

That part I know. I'm an amateur radio operator, so I know the mediums it
can travel through. I guess the question was more towards the lobe patterns
on the 614+ antennas, as I'm up 2 floors at the moment.

cheers



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In message <BB56B959.49AEA%(E-Mail Removed)>, VP <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Malcolm Loades,
>
>> Wireless signals travel between floors much better than they travel
>> through walls (assuming that you don't have concrete floors). Situate
>> it on the Main Floor and so long as your house doesn't have a very large
>> square area, with lots of solid walls, you should be fine.
>
>That part I know. I'm an amateur radio operator, so I know the mediums it
>can travel through. I guess the question was more towards the lobe patterns
>on the 614+ antennas, as I'm up 2 floors at the moment.

I honestly believe you're 'barking up the wrong the wrong tree' in
expecting a definitive answer based on lobe patterns! The standard
antennas will not have gain and will be omni-directional. At the
frequencies used reflection around the structure of your house will be a
far more important factor than the antenna lobe pattern. And there is
no formula you can feed into your PC to have that calculated. You've
gotta try it and see.

You're obviously prepared to buy a repeater else you wouldn't have asked
"If I do need a repeater, what's a good repeater?". So what's stopping
you buying the router and experimenting to determine the best location?

"I guess the question was more towards the lobe patterns on the 614+
antennas, as I'm up 2 floors at the moment". You've lost me, in the
first posting said you had a house with 3 floors - basement, main,
upper. Have you built another floor in the roof space today?
--
Malcolm

> Well gain isn't really my goal here. I have a house that's maybe 100
feet
> long, if that. I have 3 storeys and need to cover all 3 of them. I am
> seeing what can be done with layout before I start drilling holes and
> running Cat-5.
>

Just power up and configure your AP without having it hooked to the net. At
this point all you are doing is placing the AP in different areas to see
what works for you. This will help you find the best location for that one
hole. Ultimately, you are going to find it a compromise finding the best RF
location, easy of wiring, and concealing the AP from view.


> > You're obviously prepared to buy a repeater else you wouldn't have asked
> > "If I do need a repeater, what's a good repeater?". So what's stopping
> > you buying the router and experimenting to determine the best location?
>
> I have the Dlink already. Just wondering what is best for signal,
upstairs
> or down. Again, I don't know what the recommendations are for
> upstairs/downstairs with respect to A/P vs. clients.
>



We all know that RF only runs up hill so you need to put the AP in the
basement. Just kidding, I don't want to get all the RF engineers out here
excited. To answer your question, see above and experiment. Good luck.



Rita

VP <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<BB56B959.49AEA%(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Malcolm Loades,
>
> > Wireless signals travel between floors much better than they travel
> > through walls (assuming that you don't have concrete floors). Situate
> > it on the Main Floor and so long as your house doesn't have a very large
> > square area, with lots of solid walls, you should be fine.
>
> That part I know. I'm an amateur radio operator, so I know the mediums it
> can travel through. I guess the question was more towards the lobe patterns
> on the 614+ antennas, as I'm up 2 floors at the moment.
>
> cheers
>

They are coaxial dipoles. Orient horizontally on the main floor or
top floor so that the lobes are oriented correctly and place the unit
upon a cookie sheet (if down stairs) or place a cookie sheet behind
the antennas (if upstairs). The downstairs configuration is is more
desirable because of heat.

OR:

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template

OR:

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2

OR:

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/Ez-10

-m-

(E-Mail Removed),

> Damn just put the AP on the middle floor stick it in a closet and be
> done with it... drill a hole...go ahead be brave ! It should take 15
> post for you to figure this out...

Listen you rude moron, it isn't my house, and unlike you, I'd rather discuss
it with people before I start drilling into someone's house. Secondly,
there are no closets, but your assumptions show how much you know.

> you want me to come drill the damn
> hole ?

I'd like to see you do that. You won't last long, idiot.

> It is Stories anyway, damn people just amaze me how stupid they
> are!

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=storey&sa=Dict

Moron. Speak English, bozo.



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Michael Erskine,

> They are coaxial dipoles. Orient horizontally on the main floor or
> top floor so that the lobes are oriented correctly and place the unit
> upon a cookie sheet (if down stairs) or place a cookie sheet behind
> the antennas (if upstairs). The downstairs configuration is is more
> desirable because of heat.

I was thinking about realigning the antennas, but then the polarization
would be intersecting as I'm thinking wireless antennas (at least in wired
Macs) are vertical. I'll give that a try.

Thanks for the notes...I will review the urls as well.

Cheers.




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In message <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) writes
>Damn just put the AP on the middle floor stick it in a closet and be
>done with it... drill a hole...go ahead be brave ! It should take 15
>post for you to figure this out... you want me to come drill the damn
>hole ? It is Stories anyway, damn people just amaze me how stupid they
>are!

With regret, I must agree that the OP does appear to be 'stupid'.

Twice I've tried to help and each time he comes back with previously
undisclosed information saying why my ideas are no good. He expects
everyone to do all the work for him while not being bothered to explain
what he really wants to know. Dammit, he's living in the place, he's
got the AP yet he's not even bothered to experiment (the only reliable
way to determine coverage) with it in different locations.

He's waiting for someone to say "It's guaranteed to work if you place it
against the blue wall in the little room to the right of the main
bedroom, 3.5' above the floor with the antenna angled at 45 degrees".

I've <plonked> him.
--
Malcolm.

In message <BB57352F.49C19%(E-Mail Removed)>, VP <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>(E-Mail Removed),
>
>> Damn just put the AP on the middle floor stick it in a closet and be
>> done with it... drill a hole...go ahead be brave ! It should take 15
>> post for you to figure this out...
>
>Listen you rude moron, it isn't my house, and unlike you, I'd rather discuss
>it with people before I start drilling into someone's house. Secondly,
>there are no closets, but your assumptions show how much you know.
>
>> you want me to come drill the damn
>> hole ?
>
>I'd like to see you do that. You won't last long, idiot.
>
>> It is Stories anyway, damn people just amaze me how stupid they
>> are!
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=storey&sa=Dict
>
>Moron. Speak English, bozo.
>
We appear to have been had. VP <(E-Mail Removed)> designs and implements
wireless networks!!

I quote from his website http://www.viaduct-productions.com. "Short
range, high speed wireless access to local area networks and servers is
an excellent technology which gives access to laptops, desktops and
handheld units, to aid integration of local movement amongst
staffmembers or clients. Barcode scanning, localized printing, server
applications, communications, and hardware mobility, designed and
implemented by Viaduct, allow companies to take advantage of mobile
computing and its associated benefits".

I'm surprised that a company purporting to design and implement wireless
solutions needed to ask:

>Hey there.
>
>I have one Dlink 614+ for up to 10 devices in a house. What floor
>should I put it on, if I had a choice? Basement, Main Floor, upper
>floor? Essentially people on every floor, and I don't want to go with
>another access point as a repeater.
>
>If I do need a repeater, what's a good repeater?
>
>Cheers
--
Malcolm.

Malcolm Loades,

> I'm surprised that a company purporting to design and implement wireless
> solutions needed to ask:

You still don't get the question.



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