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      03-04-2005, 01:23 PM
Is Win2003 able to support 3 network card? What should i look out for piror
to the installation of the 3rd NIC. Currently my server is running 2 network
environment and the 3rd one is to connect to my 3rd network environment for
some FTP stuff. Will it work?

thanks.
 
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      03-04-2005, 01:49 PM
it should work. just make they are in different subnet. For more and other information, go to http://howtonetworking.com.

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"Benjamin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:1F1C7C2D-0D1E-4E00-8620-(E-Mail Removed)...
Is Win2003 able to support 3 network card? What should i look out for piror
to the installation of the 3rd NIC. Currently my server is running 2 network
environment and the 3rd one is to connect to my 3rd network environment for
some FTP stuff. Will it work?

thanks.
 
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Phillip Windell
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      03-04-2005, 02:04 PM
Yes. It will work. But you can also drive you car by removing the
windshield, sitting on the roof and turning the sterring wheel with your
feet and pushing the pedals with a stick. So, yes it will work,..but it is
not the best way to go about it.

Networks should exist separately from the computers that run on them and be
able to "stand on thier own". So you use the cables, switches, hubs, and
routers to build the network. You place routers (not computers) between the
network segments. When you power them all up the network "runs",...then you
plug the computers into the network and they "live" on the already existing
network. You will be "miles ahead" and have a lot less grief if you follow
this perspective.

Multi-nic computers are fine if you are *specifically* building them to be a
Router, a Firewall (NAT Device), or a Proxy,...otherwise they should only
have one Nic.

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"Benjamin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is Win2003 able to support 3 network card? What should i look out for

piror
> to the installation of the 3rd NIC. Currently my server is running 2

network
> environment and the 3rd one is to connect to my 3rd network environment

for
> some FTP stuff. Will it work?
>
> thanks.



 
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Mr. Smith
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      03-04-2005, 03:23 PM
I think he's looking to make some sort of Network Bridge between two
networks.

If I had an office and let's say it was broken into two different companies.

I would like to run two networks independent of one another, but at some
point I need to connect these networks so that I can transfer files etc. A
network bridge would be the best way to do this. Well a router mores so,
but with a server acting as a bridge you can use that machine to monitor
traffic and keep stats about both networks in a central location.




 
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      03-04-2005, 04:40 PM
"Mr. Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I think he's looking to make some sort of Network Bridge between two
> networks.
>
> If I had an office and let's say it was broken into two different

companies.
>
> I would like to run two networks independent of one another, but at some
> point I need to connect these networks so that I can transfer files etc.

A
> network bridge would be the best way to do this. Well a router mores so,
> but with a server acting as a bridge you can use that machine to monitor
> traffic and keep stats about both networks in a central location.


Ok, I see.

But if no traffic needs to move "across" the machine then there is no need
for bridging,...the machine would simply have a "presents" on both networks
and it would be nothing more than that. However he will have a bunch of
problems that are normally associated with running multiple adapters of the
same subnet on the same machine at the same time. Having the two networks
running different IP ranges would be the best way,...the machine would not
route packets across it unless it was specifically configured to be a
router, but it would still function on both networks at the same time that
way.

But I still think it is a bad idea. I am just opposed to the concept of
making computers part of the network infastructure (aside from proxys or NAT
Servers). I believe in making the infastructure be able to stand on its own
even if there are no computers attached to the network at all. The computers
then just become devices that "use" the network rather than "be" the
network. I guess that is why my job here gets so boring, everthing works
consistantly as expected,...there is never any surprises.

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Paul Hadfield
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      03-04-2005, 08:59 PM
Phillip, I disagree....

There are many examples of network infrastructure that require a server to
have more than a single NIC. I've outlined just a few examples below.

a) A server requiring very high bandwidth to a network, or a highly
available connection to a network, could benefit from a teamed network
set-up. This usually involves 2 or more NIC's being connected in parallel to
the same network switch. Software on the server (or a combination of
software and hardware) works in tandem with the teamed ports on the switch
to 'group' the NICs together as so they act as one. This can be either
bandwidth improvements to the switch, or for high availability reasons
should one of the NIC's or switch ports fail. A similar configuration is
sometimes used to connect switches together on large heavily used backbones
or data centres - in this case the correct term is network trunking.

b) A server that provides access to a database, or the next tier of a
database application may benefit from two NICs. One NIC may be connected to
the private secured data network, while the second NIC may be connected to a
public/front facing network. In this kind of scenario, the server could
likely be one of a group of clustered or load balanced servers providing the
same service across the same 2 networks. This kind of set-up would be
inherently secure as the data network could be completely separated from any
other traffic. It would be inherently fault tolerant as should any one
server fail, other servers in the cluster would continue to service
requests. It would also be inherently highly available as any server could
be removed to perform maintenance/upgrade without effecting the overall
availability of the database application.

At the company I work for, we have a large data centre set-up not unlike the
second example above. The main difference being that our front facing
application servers each have 3 NIC's in them as we have 2 private data
networks as well as the public network.

Paul.


Phillip Windell wrote:

Multi-nic computers are fine if you are *specifically* building them to be a
Router, a Firewall (NAT Device), or a Proxy,...otherwise they should only
have one Nic.



"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes. It will work. But you can also drive you car by removing the
> windshield, sitting on the roof and turning the sterring wheel with your
> feet and pushing the pedals with a stick. So, yes it will work,..but it
> is
> not the best way to go about it.
>
> Networks should exist separately from the computers that run on them and
> be
> able to "stand on thier own". So you use the cables, switches, hubs, and
> routers to build the network. You place routers (not computers) between
> the
> network segments. When you power them all up the network "runs",...then
> you
> plug the computers into the network and they "live" on the already
> existing
> network. You will be "miles ahead" and have a lot less grief if you
> follow
> this perspective.
>
> Multi-nic computers are fine if you are *specifically* building them to be
> a
> Router, a Firewall (NAT Device), or a Proxy,...otherwise they should only
> have one Nic.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Benjamin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1F1C7C2D-0D1E-4E00-8620-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Is Win2003 able to support 3 network card? What should i look out for

> piror
>> to the installation of the 3rd NIC. Currently my server is running 2

> network
>> environment and the 3rd one is to connect to my 3rd network environment

> for
>> some FTP stuff. Will it work?
>>
>> thanks.

>
>



 
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      03-07-2005, 04:55 PM
I am aware of those situations and I consider them the "exceptions" to the
rule. In legitament situations requireing such things those are fine, but I
don't think the network should be designed around those. It should be
designed as independent as possible from the machines that "live" on it.
Those other things are then built on top of the already solid infastructure
that should already be there.

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