2Wire 1000HG - help using internal static address as port forwarding destintation

On 08/20/06 12:35, Taylor, Grant wrote:
> I'll see if I can't get a hold of my colleague that told me what I
> told you and see if she ever found any different solutions.

Well I just got off the phone with my colleague. She has not found any way
to do port mapping to static IP addresses. After many conversations with
2Wire, it was determined that this was a limitation of the 2Wire device's
design / firmware.



Grant. . . .

Thanks for the fine attempt. 2wire.... phhhhffft!
;-)

Taylor, Grant wrote:
> On 08/20/06 12:35, Taylor, Grant wrote:
> > I'll see if I can't get a hold of my colleague that told me what I
> > told you and see if she ever found any different solutions.
>
> Well I just got off the phone with my colleague. She has not found any way
> to do port mapping to static IP addresses. After many conversations with
> 2Wire, it was determined that this was a limitation of the 2Wire device's
> design / firmware.
>
>
>
> Grant. . . .

Thanks for the fine attempt. 2wire.... phhhhffft!
;-)

Taylor, Grant wrote:
> On 08/20/06 12:35, Taylor, Grant wrote:
> > I'll see if I can't get a hold of my colleague that told me what I
> > told you and see if she ever found any different solutions.
>
> Well I just got off the phone with my colleague. She has not found any way
> to do port mapping to static IP addresses. After many conversations with
> 2Wire, it was determined that this was a limitation of the 2Wire device's
> design / firmware.
>
>
>
> Grant. . . .

I know this is really tardy reply, but I just use another router in
the chain. (ie. connection to outside world > 2wire modem/router >
Linsys router > computer.) That's if affordable, of course.


On 13 Aug 2006 11:51:08 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:


> I am trying to help a client. Basic problem is that with the SBC
> provided 2wire ADSL/router he has, I seem unable to use a static
> assigned IP address as a port forwarding destination, as it does not
> "appear" on the device list the "Home network" page, as opposed to
> devices that are DHCP (dynamically) assigned an address.
>
> 2Wire quickly responsed to my email, but frankly, their answer sounds a
> bit odd. I've requested followup, but haven't had any (yet.) This is
> an important client who is a distance from my home, and I can't afford
> to be "experimenting" as I don't wan't to errode his confidence in me.
> Unfortunately, I don't have the same equipment to test.
>
> Below is my conversation to date with 2Wire -- is there a kind soul who
> can help me verify their "solution"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> d.
>
> ===================
>
> {MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE}
>
> I'm having trouble configuring my 1800HG to use a device using a static
> address as a port forwarding destination.
>
> Internally, I can reach the static address device without a problem.
>
> THe problem seems to get the device to appear in the list of devices on
> the "Home Network" page. Without this, the device doesn't appear in the
> list of devices "Choose the computer that will host applications" on
> the "Edit firwall setttings" page.
>
>
> Is there a way to get a static address device to appear on this list,
> so I can complete the port forwading instructions?
>
> THank you
>
> d.
> ===================
>
> {REPLY}
>
> Dear D,
>
> Thank you for contacting 2Wire Customer Support. The following is
> intended to answer your inquiry:
>
> Try these steps.
>
> Assign the device an IP address between 192.168.1.33 and 192.168.1.62.
> Turn the device off then back on to renew its address with your Home
> Gateway. You should be now able to see that device in the Home Network
> list to configure it.
>
>
> If this response has not answered your question or resolved your issue
> you may visit our support Website at http://support.2wire.com or reply
> to this email.
>
> Thank You,
> John C.
> 2Wire Customer Support
> http://www.2Wire.com
>
>
> =======================
>
> {{My followup}}
>
> Thank you for your prompt response.
>
> Because this setup is not near my home (this is for a client), I'd
> appreciate if you would explain the special significance of the address
> range 192.168.1.33 thru 192.168.1.62, as I couldn't find any in the
> documentation. Is there a special (undoumented) error or
> limitation requireing the use of that range only?
>
> Thank you.
>
> d.

On 09/03/06 14:15, waiting_2b_reborn wrote:
> I know this is really tardy reply, but I just use another router in
> the chain. (ie. connection to outside world > 2wire modem/router >
> Linsys router > computer.) That's if affordable, of course.

Tardyness is not an issue when trying to help someone.

Yes, what you propose will work, if you can get the 2Wire to forward the traffic in to your second router. However this is (IMHO) extremely inefficient and sort of futile. Why not configure the 2Wire as a bridge and just use the other router that you have?



Grant. . . .

Taylor, Grant wrote:
> On 09/03/06 14:15, waiting_2b_reborn wrote:
>> I know this is really tardy reply, but I just use another router in
>> the chain. (ie. connection to outside world > 2wire modem/router >
>> Linsys router > computer.) That's if affordable, of course.
>
> Tardyness is not an issue when trying to help someone.
>
> Yes, what you propose will work, if you can get the 2Wire to forward
> the traffic in to your second router. However this is (IMHO)
> extremely inefficient and sort of futile. Why not configure the
> 2Wire as a bridge and just use the other router that you have?
> Grant. . . .

I have a 2Wire HomePortal 1000HG. Which is a DSL modem and a wireless
router. There is no WAN port, but sports one Ethernet and one USB port
for wired computers. I did for fun connect up my US Robotics wireless
router to the Ethernet port and it did work that way. I didn't bridge
them or anything.

And it looked like to me that the 2Wire treated the US Robotics router
like a single computer. The plus side was there was two different
signals for the other wireless computers to lock on too.

Although if I bridged them, don't you lose all all WiFi ability to the
other wireless computers?

Btw, I don't normally have the US Robotics router connected, as the
2Wire does everything that router does anyway (minus a port for a
printer).

On 09/05/06 10:21, BillW50 wrote:
> I have a 2Wire HomePortal 1000HG. Which is a DSL modem and a wireless
> router. There is no WAN port, but sports one Ethernet and one USB port
> for wired computers. I did for fun connect up my US Robotics wireless
> router to the Ethernet port and it did work that way. I didn't bridge
> them or anything.

Did you try port forwarding from the external DSL IP in to the internal US Robotics Wireless Router?

Was your US Robotics Wireless Router DHCPing or did it have a static IP? The OPs complaint was that s/he could not port forward correctly to an internal device that was not DHCPed from the 2Wire.

> And it looked like to me that the 2Wire treated the US Robotics router
> like a single computer. The plus side was there was two different
> signals for the other wireless computers to lock on too.

*nod* No matter how the US Robotics Wireless Router was connecting, static or dynamic IP, the 2Wire would correctly handle out bound connections. It was *inbound* connections that the OP was primarily concerned with.

As far as the two wireless signals to lock on to so long as you don't mind the network segmentation that would be caused by the US Robotics Wireless Router NAT routing for the computers behind it verses the computer(s) on the 2Wire wireless network, sure.

> Although if I bridged them, don't you lose all all WiFi ability to the
> other wireless computers?

I do not know. I would think there would be two possible scenarios. Either the wireless would be bridged to the DSL modem, or it would be disconnected. I'm not sure what it would be.

> Btw, I don't normally have the US Robotics router connected, as the
> 2Wire does everything that router does anyway (minus a port for a
> printer).

*nod*



Grant. . . .