BE 24 Mbit broadband - unlimited but 'fair use' applies

Hi,

I was interested in this service provider - but now I see a fair use
stipulation applies despite 'unlimited blazing speeds'.

Just like Tiscali unlimited but capped if you use it too much.

It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,

They say 24Mbit is great for Hi-Def video feeds - hmm, that and
general downloading will eat b/w - so, do they mean download 100GB's
and be capped (data, video, music, etc) - hardly worth having a speedy
streaming connection then.

That's what worries me too. Sounds like they're just a faster version
of Plusnet.

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"Dr Teeth" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Sounds like they're just a faster version of Plusnet.

Jesus Christ don't say that! Nobody's that bad...

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:24:55 +0100, Luxo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,

I agree, and you should pay the £250/month to go with it.

Phil
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"Luxo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Hi,
>
> I was interested in this service provider - but now I see a fair use
> stipulation applies despite 'unlimited blazing speeds'.
>
> Just like Tiscali unlimited but capped if you use it too much.
>
> It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,
>
> They say 24Mbit is great for Hi-Def video feeds - hmm, that and
> general downloading will eat b/w - so, do they mean download 100GB's
> and be capped (data, video, music, etc) - hardly worth having a speedy
> streaming connection then.

That's why I'm happy to wait a while until I decide to go with it.

Exchange is planned to be enabled Jan 2006

Luxo wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I was interested in this service provider - but now I see a fair use
> stipulation applies despite 'unlimited blazing speeds'.
>
> Just like Tiscali unlimited but capped if you use it too much.
>
> It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,
>
> They say 24Mbit is great for Hi-Def video feeds - hmm, that and
> general downloading will eat b/w - so, do they mean download 100GB's
> and be capped (data, video, music, etc) - hardly worth having a speedy
> streaming connection then.


Thats quite right of you to say that.
They should only be allowed to market it as capped internet
or something equally decisive for a consumer to choose from.

This company has problems because they get fscked by keyhole lines leaving
their building and instead of admitting that, they are trying
to steal from true internet providers who do have 100% internet
without caps because the others have a policy in place to up their
bandwidth leaving their premises whenever demand surges.

The cappers are directly competing with true providers of real
internet through unfair competition and mislabelling their product.

Not so long ago, beef burger manufacturers had the same problems
of idiots selling beef burgers with 10% beef. There were these
marketing men selling pork chicken rusk mixture as beef burgers
when in fact there is only 10% beef. There is economic
value to the seller in mis-labelling it beef burger instead of its
true name which would have to be something like pork chicken
rusk mixture and nobody would buy it.

The same is true of internet.

The real internet service providers are offering uncapped services
as have always been the case, and cappers are trying
to steal from them by mislabelling something that should not be labelled as
internet, when it is in fact a capped service.

Luxo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was interested in this service provider - but now I see a fair use
> stipulation applies despite 'unlimited blazing speeds'.
>
> Just like Tiscali unlimited but capped if you use it too much.
>
> It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,
>
> They say 24Mbit is great for Hi-Def video feeds - hmm, that and
> general downloading will eat b/w - so, do they mean download 100GB's
> and be capped (data, video, music, etc) - hardly worth having a speedy
> streaming connection then.


It always sounded too good to be true, 'fair usage' is just a euphemism
for 'cap', in fact it is worse because they won't specify exactly how
much data you can transfer before you are deemed bad news.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:22:20 GMT, 7
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Luxo wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was interested in this service provider - but now I see a fair use
>> stipulation applies despite 'unlimited blazing speeds'.
>>
>> Just like Tiscali unlimited but capped if you use it too much.
>>
>> It's about time unlimited, legally meant just that,
>>
>> They say 24Mbit is great for Hi-Def video feeds - hmm, that and
>> general downloading will eat b/w - so, do they mean download 100GB's
>> and be capped (data, video, music, etc) - hardly worth having a speedy
>> streaming connection then.
>
>
>Thats quite right of you to say that.
>They should only be allowed to market it as capped internet
>or something equally decisive for a consumer to choose from.
>
>This company has problems because they get fscked by keyhole lines leaving
>their building and instead of admitting that, they are trying
>to steal from true internet providers who do have 100% internet
>without caps because the others have a policy in place to up their
>bandwidth leaving their premises whenever demand surges.
>
>The cappers are directly competing with true providers of real
>internet through unfair competition and mislabelling their product.
>
>Not so long ago, beef burger manufacturers had the same problems
>of idiots selling beef burgers with 10% beef. There were these
>marketing men selling pork chicken rusk mixture as beef burgers
>when in fact there is only 10% beef. There is economic
>value to the seller in mis-labelling it beef burger instead of its
>true name which would have to be something like pork chicken
>rusk mixture and nobody would buy it.
>
>The same is true of internet.
>
>The real internet service providers are offering uncapped services
>as have always been the case, and cappers are trying
>to steal from them by mislabelling something that should not be labelled as
>internet, when it is in fact a capped service.
>

Sorry to be so stupid but could someone list isp's offering uncapped
access.


thanks



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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:13:06 +0100, Harry <me@here_or_there.com>
wrote:

>Sorry to be so stupid but could someone list isp's offering uncapped
>access.

you'll have to define the term first. My attempt would be "isp's
offerring a service where the number of GBytes per month is not
limited to a pre-defined value after which the service is either
cut-off or reduced in speed"

Phil
--
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices, see
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=tiscali

AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:33:13 +0100, Phil Thompson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:13:06 +0100, Harry <me@here_or_there.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Sorry to be so stupid but could someone list isp's offering uncapped
>>access.
>
>you'll have to define the term first. My attempt would be "isp's
>offerring a service where the number of GBytes per month is not
>limited to a pre-defined value after which the service is either
>cut-off or reduced in speed"
>
>Phil

yyyeeeaahhh, well uncapped as in downloading is not stopped or
throttled down. So your definition is good, but anyone give me a list
of those that fit the bill.

Is freedom2surf like this? I saw that you can only download unlimited
overnight, on their website. What happens during the day with them?


Thanks for any info.

H
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