21CN WBC

According to http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LCBRN I see that it
says "21CN WBC Status RFS date set 31/05/11", which is of course, today.
What does that actually mean for me as an end-user? Does it mean that I can
now get ADSL2+ and if so, do I have to ask BT for it? My ISP is BT Internet,
BT Yahoo, BT Broadband or whatever it's calling itself these days.

Thanks

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>According to http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LCBRN I see that it
>says "21CN WBC Status RFS date set 31/05/11", which is of course, today.
>What does that actually mean for me as an end-user? Does it mean that I can
>now get ADSL2+

Yes. Assuming of course that they have in fact done it...

Try the BT Wholesale availability checker at

https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

(and not any other apparently similar checker). If ADSL 2+ is
available it should tell you - it gives speed estimates for whichever
of plain ADSL, ADSL Max, ADSL 2+ (and Annex-M), and FTTC are
available.

>and if so, do I have to ask BT for it? My ISP is BT Internet,
>BT Yahoo, BT Broadband or whatever it's calling itself these days.

Yes, ask your ISP.

-- Richard

On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:33:05 +0000 (UTC), (E-Mail Removed)
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>Steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>According to http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LCBRN I see that it
>>says "21CN WBC Status RFS date set 31/05/11", which is of course, today.
>>What does that actually mean for me as an end-user? Does it mean that I can
>>now get ADSL2+
>
>Yes. Assuming of course that they have in fact done it...
>
>Try the BT Wholesale availability checker at
>
> https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

Richard

I have just tried the above, entering my telephone number and get,
amongst other pearls, this

"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test
also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology
with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received
downstream line speed of 32.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps"

What does it mean?! When can I get the 32.7Mbs?

Looking at samknows I see

FTTC status:
RFS date set : 01/09/2011

Where am I ?!

Cheers

Geoff

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test
>also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology
>with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received
>downstream line speed of 32.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps"
>
>What does it mean?!

It means that you may well be able to get FTTC next year. FTTC
is advertised as "up to 40" Mb/s; the 32.7 figure reflects your
distance from the cabinet (several hundred yards, probably).

>When can I get the 32.7Mbs?

After 31st March 2012. With the emphasis on "after".

>Looking at samknows I see
>
>FTTC status:
>RFS date set : 01/09/2011

FTTC dates seem to be constantly falling behind. The BT Wholesale
checker date is likely to be more up-to-date than the Sam Knows one.

Bear in mind you will have to pay extra for FTTC. BT sell it
under the "BT Infinity" brand, but you will be able to get it from
some other ISPs too (e.g. Zen).

-- Richard

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC), (E-Mail Removed)
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test
>>also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology
>>with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received
>>downstream line speed of 32.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps"
>>
>>What does it mean?!
>
>It means that you may well be able to get FTTC next year. FTTC
>is advertised as "up to 40" Mb/s; the 32.7 figure reflects your
>distance from the cabinet (several hundred yards, probably).
>
>>When can I get the 32.7Mbs?
>
>After 31st March 2012. With the emphasis on "after".
>
>>Looking at samknows I see
>>
>>FTTC status:
>>RFS date set : 01/09/2011
>
>FTTC dates seem to be constantly falling behind. The BT Wholesale
>checker date is likely to be more up-to-date than the Sam Knows one.
>
>Bear in mind you will have to pay extra for FTTC. BT sell it
>under the "BT Infinity" brand, but you will be able to get it from
>some other ISPs too (e.g. Zen).
>
>-- Richard

Thanks for the clarification Richard.

Really annoying thing is that just down the road on another exchange
they already have FTTC !

Cheers

Geoff

On 01/06/11 23:25, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article<(E-Mail Removed) >,
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test
>> also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology
>> with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received
>> downstream line speed of 32.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps"
>>
>> What does it mean?!
>
> It means that you may well be able to get FTTC next year. FTTC
> is advertised as "up to 40" Mb/s; the 32.7 figure reflects your
> distance from the cabinet (several hundred yards, probably).

My reading of it is that the 2012 date is spurious and that FTTC is
already enabled. Check with your ISP and see what they say.

You wouldn't get those predicted line speeds if FTTC wasn't enabled. My
local exchange is due to get FTTC at the end of the month, but broadband
checker makes no mention of it: it only gives predicted speeds for ADSL2+.

"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:is7h6m$rrb$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 01/06/11 23:25, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> In article<

>
> You wouldn't get those predicted line speeds if FTTC wasn't enabled. My
> local exchange is due to get FTTC at the end of the month, but broadband
> checker makes no mention of it: it only gives predicted speeds for ADSL2+.
>

The Checker gives me the predicted speeds for ADSL2+ but the speed is half
what I actually get!
How is it Be Unlimited get more down this copper wire than BT broadband
would?
Regards
David

On 02/06/11 09:35, David wrote:
>
>
> "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:is7h6m$rrb$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 01/06/11 23:25, Richard Tobin wrote:
>>> In article<
>
>>
>> You wouldn't get those predicted line speeds if FTTC wasn't enabled.
>> My local exchange is due to get FTTC at the end of the month, but
>> broadband checker makes no mention of it: it only gives predicted
>> speeds for ADSL2+.
>>
>
> The Checker gives me the predicted speeds for ADSL2+ but the speed is
> half what I actually get!
> How is it Be Unlimited get more down this copper wire than BT broadband
> would?

It's only a prediction, remember. You must be wired up with particularly
fast copper...

For me it predicts I should get 9 - 17Mbps with 13Mbps typical (ADSL2+).
I'm more or less rock solid on 12Mbps, so it's pretty accurate for me.

"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:is7pat$8b9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 02/06/11 09:35, David wrote:
>>
>>
>> "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:is7h6m$rrb$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On 01/06/11 23:25, Richard Tobin wrote:
>>>> In article<
>>
>>>
>>> You wouldn't get those predicted line speeds if FTTC wasn't enabled.
>>> My local exchange is due to get FTTC at the end of the month, but
>>> broadband checker makes no mention of it: it only gives predicted
>>> speeds for ADSL2+.
>>>
>>
>> The Checker gives me the predicted speeds for ADSL2+ but the speed is
>> half what I actually get!
>> How is it Be Unlimited get more down this copper wire than BT broadband
>> would?
>
> It's only a prediction, remember. You must be wired up with particularly
> fast copper...
>
> For me it predicts I should get 9 - 17Mbps with 13Mbps typical (ADSL2+).
> I'm more or less rock solid on 12Mbps, so it's pretty accurate for me.

Well I'm not going to risk a change to BT should I fall out with Be,
doubtful I would fall out with Be as very happy with them.
Regards
David

On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:21:42 +0100, chris <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 01/06/11 23:25, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> In article<(E-Mail Removed) >,
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> "Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test
>>> also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology
>>> with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received
>>> downstream line speed of 32.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps"
>>>
>>> What does it mean?!
>>
>> It means that you may well be able to get FTTC next year. FTTC
>> is advertised as "up to 40" Mb/s; the 32.7 figure reflects your
>> distance from the cabinet (several hundred yards, probably).
>
>My reading of it is that the 2012 date is spurious and that FTTC is
>already enabled. Check with your ISP and see what they say.

Chris

'have just spoken to Talktalk Business Tech Support man and he says he
is as confused as I am! He has the same info.

He suggests talking to BT - but who on earth would I speak to there?!

Cheers

Geoff



>
>You wouldn't get those predicted line speeds if FTTC wasn't enabled. My
>local exchange is due to get FTTC at the end of the month, but broadband
>checker makes no mention of it: it only gives predicted speeds for ADSL2+.