2 Routers, 1 Network

Background:

I have two houses on one lot.
The main house DSL comes into a westell 327W four port wireless
modem/router. This modem/router serves one hard wired computer and a
wireless laptop at the main house and one hard wired computer (cable run
undergroud) at the other house. Everything works well one network with IPs
192.168.1.x, etc.. Fine..

Here lies the problem. At the other house I want to install a Dell 2305
wireless router to provide access to the net both for the hardwired
computer and another wireless laptop. This router gives IP's starting
192.168.2.x and when it's installed I get internet but cannot view the
networked computers under the workgroup with IP's 192.168.1.x

I tried to troubleshoot and disabled DHCP on the Dell router and the
westell assins it the ip 192.168.1.45 but the computers connected to the
dell router continue to have ip's 192.168.2.x.

How can I configure Dell router to allow access to the internet and my
workgroup network i configured under the westell? PS. Should the Dell
router be configured as a gateway or access point?

Normally I don't like to post but I can't find posts relating to this
particular problem.

TIA

sublimeone wrote:
> Background:
>
> I have two houses on one lot.
> The main house DSL comes into a westell 327W four port wireless
> modem/router. This modem/router serves one hard wired computer and a
> wireless laptop at the main house and one hard wired computer (cable run
> undergroud) at the other house. Everything works well one network with IPs
> 192.168.1.x, etc.. Fine..
>
> Here lies the problem. At the other house I want to install a Dell 2305
> wireless router to provide access to the net both for the hardwired
> computer and another wireless laptop. This router gives IP's starting
> 192.168.2.x and when it's installed I get internet but cannot view the
> networked computers under the workgroup with IP's 192.168.1.x
>
> I tried to troubleshoot and disabled DHCP on the Dell router and the
> westell assins it the ip 192.168.1.45 but the computers connected to the
> dell router continue to have ip's 192.168.2.x.
>
> How can I configure Dell router to allow access to the internet and my
> workgroup network i configured under the westell? PS. Should the Dell
> router be configured as a gateway or access point?
>
> Normally I don't like to post but I can't find posts relating to this
> particular problem.
>
> TIA
>

The Dell router should not be configured as a gateway. Your gateway is
the router that is attached to the DSL line. The Dell router must have
DHCP disabled and it should be configured as an access point. If
everything is configured correctly, the IP addresses should be
assigned by your Westell router, 192.168.1.xxx. What I don't know is
if you can have two wireless access points on the same network. You
may need a repeater rather than a router at the remote location.

Good luck, jimbo

>
> The Dell router should not be configured as a gateway. Your gateway is
> the router that is attached to the DSL line. The Dell router must have
> DHCP disabled and it should be configured as an access point. If
> everything is configured correctly, the IP addresses should be
> assigned by your Westell router, 192.168.1.xxx. What I don't know is
> if you can have two wireless access points on the same network. You
> may need a repeater rather than a router at the remote location.
>
> Good luck, jimbo

Firstly thanks for the tip. When I disable DHCP on the Dell router the
westell assigns it 192.168.1.45 which is fine (along the lines of the
westell 192.168.1.xxx) but the computers attached to the Dell seem to not
have Westell assigned IPs. I've tried to manually enter the IP but it
doesn't work.

Ideally I'd like to have a repeater but the houses are too far apart.

thanks

sublimeone wrote:
>>The Dell router should not be configured as a gateway. Your gateway is
>>the router that is attached to the DSL line. The Dell router must have
>>DHCP disabled and it should be configured as an access point. If
>>everything is configured correctly, the IP addresses should be
>>assigned by your Westell router, 192.168.1.xxx. What I don't know is
>>if you can have two wireless access points on the same network. You
>>may need a repeater rather than a router at the remote location.
>>
>>Good luck, jimbo
>
>
> Firstly thanks for the tip. When I disable DHCP on the Dell router the
> westell assigns it 192.168.1.45 which is fine (along the lines of the
> westell 192.168.1.xxx) but the computers attached to the Dell seem to not
> have Westell assigned IPs. I've tried to manually enter the IP but it
> doesn't work.
>
> Ideally I'd like to have a repeater but the houses are too far apart.
>
> thanks

If DHCP is really disabled, the IP addresses would be 192.168.1.xx,
not 192.168.2.xx. Maybe you need to "renew" the leases. Your computers
may have the 192.168.2.xx address from when the Dell had DHCP enabled
and the lease time is very long. You could try setting the Dell IP
address to 192.168.1.2 then enable DHCP. This should give your remote
computers correct IP addresses. Then disable DHCP on the Dell router.

Good luck, jimbo

I just had another thought. I have a network with a primary router WAN
port attached to a cable modem and a wireless router attached to a
primary router LAN port. The wireless router has DHCP turned off. I
set the LAN IP address of the wireless router to 192.168.0.2 because
the primary router has 192.168.0.1. The primary router does not change
the wireless router's IP address, it stays where I set it. Everything
works as expected. PCs hardwired to the primary router and wireless
PCs have Internet access and can share files, etc. If your Westell
router is assigning an IP address to your wireless router, something
must be configured wrong.

My other thought is if I wanted to add a second wireless router to
this network, I would first hardwire it to a single PC and disable
DHCP and set the LAN IP address to 192.168.0.3. Then give it a
different SSID and channel from the first wireless router. Then I
would connect it to the primary router LAN port to LAN port.

I think what I would have is two wireless signals to choose from but
either would connect me to the network. I might give this a try just
for kicks.

Good luck, jimbo



sublimeone wrote:
>>The Dell router should not be configured as a gateway. Your gateway is
>>the router that is attached to the DSL line. The Dell router must have
>>DHCP disabled and it should be configured as an access point. If
>>everything is configured correctly, the IP addresses should be
>>assigned by your Westell router, 192.168.1.xxx. What I don't know is
>>if you can have two wireless access points on the same network. You
>>may need a repeater rather than a router at the remote location.
>>
>>Good luck, jimbo
>
>
> Firstly thanks for the tip. When I disable DHCP on the Dell router the
> westell assigns it 192.168.1.45 which is fine (along the lines of the
> westell 192.168.1.xxx) but the computers attached to the Dell seem to not
> have Westell assigned IPs. I've tried to manually enter the IP but it
> doesn't work.
>
> Ideally I'd like to have a repeater but the houses are too far apart.
>
> thanks

OK, here is what I have. A cable modem connected to the WAN port of my
primary router, DHCP enabled. A Netgear wireless router connected to a
LAN port, DHCP disabled. A desktop PC connected to a LAN port of the
primary router. A D-Link wireless router connected to a LAN port of
the primary router, DHCP disabled. Netgear wireless and D-Link
wireless have different ssid names and channel numbers. LAN IP
addresses set manually for primary router at 192.168.0.1, for Netgear
192.168.0.2 for D-Link 192.168.0.3.

My wireless laptop can connect to either network and get access to the
Internet.

Good luck, jimbo


sublimeone wrote:
>>The Dell router should not be configured as a gateway. Your gateway is
>>the router that is attached to the DSL line. The Dell router must have
>>DHCP disabled and it should be configured as an access point. If
>>everything is configured correctly, the IP addresses should be
>>assigned by your Westell router, 192.168.1.xxx. What I don't know is
>>if you can have two wireless access points on the same network. You
>>may need a repeater rather than a router at the remote location.
>>
>>Good luck, jimbo
>
>
> Firstly thanks for the tip. When I disable DHCP on the Dell router the
> westell assigns it 192.168.1.45 which is fine (along the lines of the
> westell 192.168.1.xxx) but the computers attached to the Dell seem to not
> have Westell assigned IPs. I've tried to manually enter the IP but it
> doesn't work.
>
> Ideally I'd like to have a repeater but the houses are too far apart.
>
> thanks