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Sim
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      09-23-2004, 12:43 PM
Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running NT 4.0
Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2 network
cards.

One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
outgoing traffic.

Thanks very much


 
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      09-23-2004, 02:16 PM
Yes, quoted from http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Configure Windows server to Be a Router
RRAS is installed under w2k server by default, but not activated. To setup
Windows 2000 as a router for a LAN, you need to two network adapters.
To setup Windows 2000/2003 as a router for a LAN, you need to two network
adapters. To enable LAN routing. go to Administrative Tools>Routing and
Remote Access>Action>Configure and Enable Routing and Remote Access, and
then complete the wizard. Right-click the server for which you want to
enable routing, and then click Properties>General>Router, check Local area
network (LAN) routing only, and then click OK.


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"Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running NT 4.0
> Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2 network
> cards.
>
> One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
> outgoing traffic.
>
> Thanks very much
>
>



 
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Phillip Windell
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      09-23-2004, 02:52 PM
I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You didn't
indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am assuming both
NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you expect.
There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for "bridging
situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.

If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each serving its
respective subnet,...still not what you wanted

175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767

157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000

272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
Controllers
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294

191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611

Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?


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Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running NT 4.0
> Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2 network
> cards.
>
> One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
> outgoing traffic.
>
> Thanks very much
>
>



 
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Sim
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      09-23-2004, 03:34 PM
Just to confirm, we have a Citrix server with application installed on the
server, the application is configured to go to the database server to do
many queries and the performance can degrade with the number of user and
type of reports users are trying produce.

This server is a dual processor with 4GB of memory, the CPU is not hammered
nor is the server running out of memory. I have not run perfmon but I'm
guessing the network card is the bottleneck and thought if could add another
NIC and have one for in coming and the other doing outgoing this may improve
performance.

I'm going to run perfmon, any suggestions what counters I should use also
what kind of output tells me the NIC is an issue.

Thanks





"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You didn't
> indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am assuming

both
> NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you

expect.
> There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for "bridging
> situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.
>
> If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each serving

its
> respective subnet,...still not what you wanted
>
> 175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767
>
> 157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
>

http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000
>
> 272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
> Controllers
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294
>
> 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611
>
> Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
>

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?
>
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running NT

4.0
> > Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2 network
> > cards.
> >
> > One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
> > outgoing traffic.
> >
> > Thanks very much
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Todd J Heron
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      09-23-2004, 04:47 PM
"Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just to confirm, we have a Citrix server with application installed on the
> server, the application is configured to go to the database server to do
> many queries and the performance can degrade with the number of user and
> type of reports users are trying produce.
>
> This server is a dual processor with 4GB of memory, the CPU is not

hammered
> nor is the server running out of memory. I have not run perfmon but I'm
> guessing the network card is the bottleneck and thought if could add

another
> NIC and have one for in coming and the other doing outgoing this may

improve
> performance.
>
> I'm going to run perfmon, any suggestions what counters I should use also
> what kind of output tells me the NIC is an issue.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You didn't
> > indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am assuming

> both
> > NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you

> expect.
> > There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for "bridging
> > situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.
> >
> > If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each serving

> its
> > respective subnet,...still not what you wanted
> >
> > 175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767
> >
> > 157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
> >

>

http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000
> >
> > 272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
> > Controllers
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294
> >
> > 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611
> >
> > Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
> >

>

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> > www.wandtv.com
> >
> >
> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running NT

> 4.0
> > > Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2 network
> > > cards.
> > >
> > > One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
> > > outgoing traffic.
> > >
> > > Thanks very much


You can setup a separate network connection using the second NIC in the
Citrix server going to the SQL server. As Phill suggested, give it a
different IP on a different subnet (same as the SQL server). Easiest to
connect the cable directly to the SQL server. The TCP/IP stack will create a
routing table and send traffic to the appropriate destinations.

--
Todd J Heron, MCSE
Windows 2003/2000/NT


 
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Bill Grant
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      09-24-2004, 02:42 AM
That should be fine. As usual, it helps to know the full story. The
clients don't need to know how to reach the SQL server. The Citrix server is
running the application, so it is the only machine which needs to know where
the database server is. The clients only communicate with the terminal
server.

"Todd J Heron" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Just to confirm, we have a Citrix server with application installed on
>> the
>> server, the application is configured to go to the database server to do
>> many queries and the performance can degrade with the number of user and
>> type of reports users are trying produce.
>>
>> This server is a dual processor with 4GB of memory, the CPU is not

> hammered
>> nor is the server running out of memory. I have not run perfmon but I'm
>> guessing the network card is the bottleneck and thought if could add

> another
>> NIC and have one for in coming and the other doing outgoing this may

> improve
>> performance.
>>
>> I'm going to run perfmon, any suggestions what counters I should use also
>> what kind of output tells me the NIC is an issue.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You didn't
>> > indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am assuming

>> both
>> > NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you

>> expect.
>> > There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for "bridging
>> > situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.
>> >
>> > If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each serving

>> its
>> > respective subnet,...still not what you wanted
>> >
>> > 175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767
>> >
>> > 157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
>> >

>>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000
>> >
>> > 272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
>> > Controllers
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294
>> >
>> > 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611
>> >
>> > Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
>> >

>>

> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
>> > www.wandtv.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running
>> > > NT

>> 4.0
>> > > Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2
>> > > network
>> > > cards.
>> > >
>> > > One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card for
>> > > outgoing traffic.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks very much

>
> You can setup a separate network connection using the second NIC in the
> Citrix server going to the SQL server. As Phill suggested, give it a
> different IP on a different subnet (same as the SQL server). Easiest to
> connect the cable directly to the SQL server. The TCP/IP stack will create
> a
> routing table and send traffic to the appropriate destinations.
>
> --
> Todd J Heron, MCSE
> Windows 2003/2000/NT
>
>



 
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Todd J Heron
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      09-24-2004, 04:12 PM
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> That should be fine. As usual, it helps to know the full story. The
> clients don't need to know how to reach the SQL server. The Citrix server

is
> running the application, so it is the only machine which needs to know

where
> the database server is. The clients only communicate with the terminal
> server.
>
> "Todd J Heron" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Just to confirm, we have a Citrix server with application installed on
> >> the
> >> server, the application is configured to go to the database server to

do
> >> many queries and the performance can degrade with the number of user

and
> >> type of reports users are trying produce.
> >>
> >> This server is a dual processor with 4GB of memory, the CPU is not

> > hammered
> >> nor is the server running out of memory. I have not run perfmon but

I'm
> >> guessing the network card is the bottleneck and thought if could add

> > another
> >> NIC and have one for in coming and the other doing outgoing this may

> > improve
> >> performance.
> >>
> >> I'm going to run perfmon, any suggestions what counters I should use

also
> >> what kind of output tells me the NIC is an issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You didn't
> >> > indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am

assuming
> >> both
> >> > NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you
> >> expect.
> >> > There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for

"bridging
> >> > situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.
> >> >
> >> > If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each

serving
> >> its
> >> > respective subnet,...still not what you wanted
> >> >
> >> > 175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767
> >> >
> >> > 157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
> >> >
> >>

> >

http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000
> >> >
> >> > 272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
> >> > Controllers
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294
> >> >
> >> > 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611
> >> >
> >> > Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
> >> >
> >>

> >

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> >> > www.wandtv.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running
> >> > > NT
> >> 4.0
> >> > > Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2
> >> > > network
> >> > > cards.
> >> > >
> >> > > One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card

for
> >> > > outgoing traffic.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks very much

> >
> > You can setup a separate network connection using the second NIC in the
> > Citrix server going to the SQL server. As Phill suggested, give it a
> > different IP on a different subnet (same as the SQL server). Easiest to
> > connect the cable directly to the SQL server. The TCP/IP stack will

create
> > a
> > routing table and send traffic to the appropriate destinations.
> >
> > --
> > Todd J Heron, MCSE
> > Windows 2003/2000/NT


Understood. I run a 30-server Citrix farm w/SQL server at my organization.

--
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Windows 2003/2000/NT


 
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Bill Grant
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      09-25-2004, 12:58 AM
Cheers, Todd. I just wanted to make sure the original poster realised how
it fitted together. It turned out to be a very different setup from what the
original post suggested.

"Todd J Heron" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> That should be fine. As usual, it helps to know the full story. The
>> clients don't need to know how to reach the SQL server. The Citrix server

> is
>> running the application, so it is the only machine which needs to know

> where
>> the database server is. The clients only communicate with the terminal
>> server.
>>
>> "Todd J Heron" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Just to confirm, we have a Citrix server with application installed on
>> >> the
>> >> server, the application is configured to go to the database server to

> do
>> >> many queries and the performance can degrade with the number of user

> and
>> >> type of reports users are trying produce.
>> >>
>> >> This server is a dual processor with 4GB of memory, the CPU is not
>> > hammered
>> >> nor is the server running out of memory. I have not run perfmon but

> I'm
>> >> guessing the network card is the bottleneck and thought if could add
>> > another
>> >> NIC and have one for in coming and the other doing outgoing this may
>> > improve
>> >> performance.
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to run perfmon, any suggestions what counters I should use

> also
>> >> what kind of output tells me the NIC is an issue.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > I guess I'm going to be a stick in the mud. No you can't. You
>> >> > didn't
>> >> > indicate that you had two networks (different subnets) so I am

> assuming
>> >> both
>> >> > NICs are the same subnet,...so, no it will not work at all like you
>> >> expect.
>> >> > There should only be one physical NIC per subnet (except for

> "bridging
>> >> > situations). Multiple IP#s can be applied to the same NIC.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you have two subnets then both NICs are "in & out" with each

> serving
>> >> its
>> >> > respective subnet,...still not what you wanted
>> >> >
>> >> > 175767 - Expected Behavior of Multiple Adapters on Same Network
>> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;175767
>> >> >
>> >> > 157025 - Default Gateway Configuration for Multihomed Computers
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >

> http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000
>> >> >
>> >> > 272294 - Active Directory Communication Fails on Multihomed Domain
>> >> > Controllers
>> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272294
>> >> >
>> >> > 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
>> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;191611
>> >> >
>> >> > Microsoft Windows XP - Multihoming Considerations
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >

> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._tcp_qpzj.asp?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
>> >> > www.wandtv.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Sim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > Is it possible to configure any of these operating systems running
>> >> > > NT
>> >> 4.0
>> >> > > Server , Windows 2000 Server & Windows 2003 Server, that has 2
>> >> > > network
>> >> > > cards.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > One network card for incoming traffic and the other network card

> for
>> >> > > outgoing traffic.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks very much
>> >
>> > You can setup a separate network connection using the second NIC in the
>> > Citrix server going to the SQL server. As Phill suggested, give it a
>> > different IP on a different subnet (same as the SQL server). Easiest
>> > to
>> > connect the cable directly to the SQL server. The TCP/IP stack will

> create
>> > a
>> > routing table and send traffic to the appropriate destinations.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Todd J Heron, MCSE
>> > Windows 2003/2000/NT

>
> Understood. I run a 30-server Citrix farm w/SQL server at my
> organization.
>
> --
> Todd J Heron, MCSE
> Windows 2003/2000/NT
>
>



 
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