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sozobon@gmail.com
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      11-13-2006, 12:08 AM
Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help with this. I have a common area at work in
which I would like to grant wireless access. The problem is I would
like to grant access to both employees and guests -- with the employees
getting access within our firewalled network, and guests getting access
in our "DMZ" area, outside our firewalled network. The employees would
be routed to our network by MAC address, and the guests would enter a
password to get to our DMZ. Can this be done with 1 wireless router, or
is it absolutely necessary to buy 2? Do they make wireless routers with
2 network interfaces?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

B

 
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Mr. Arnold
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      11-13-2006, 02:26 AM
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> Hi,
>
> Wondering if anyone can help with this. I have a common area at work in
> which I would like to grant wireless access. The problem is I would
> like to grant access to both employees and guests -- with the employees
> getting access within our firewalled network, and guests getting access
> in our "DMZ" area, outside our firewalled network. The employees would
> be routed to our network by MAC address, and the guests would enter a
> password to get to our DMZ. Can this be done with 1 wireless router, or
> is it absolutely necessary to buy 2? Do they make wireless routers with
> 2 network interfaces?
>


I don't think you're going to find any wireless solution router or
firewall appliance that has two wireless network interfaces, one facing
the DMZ/untrusted zone and one facing the LAN/trusted zone, like you'll
find in an Ethernet solution. It seems you'll need a wireless router
solution in the DMZ. I myself wouldn't even have a wireless solution in
the trusted zone, but that's just me.

Duane
 
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AdamO
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      11-13-2006, 02:51 AM
My work uses a DLINK ap that gives the employees access to a restricted
zone
while guests are only given access to internet. At home i use a vpn
gateway
between a public wireless network and my internal. Allowing people
access to
internet and a server but not the workstations on my internal.

It's easy to copy a mac address but most people suggest its the best
option....

 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      11-13-2006, 03:40 AM
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>I have a common area at work in
>which I would like to grant wireless access. The problem is I would
>like to grant access to both employees and guests -- with the employees
>getting access within our firewalled network, and guests getting access
>in our "DMZ" area, outside our firewalled network. The employees would
>be routed to our network by MAC address, and the guests would enter a
>password to get to our DMZ. Can this be done with 1 wireless router, or
>is it absolutely necessary to buy 2? Do they make wireless routers with
>2 network interfaces?


No. If you have two physically seperated networks (different wired
LAN's), then there is no single wireless device that can provide
wireless bridging to both LAN's at the same time. In such an
arrangement, two wireless access points (not routers) are usually
used.

I'm not sure exactly what you have in the way of a LAN topology, but
your might want to read about Sonicwall security zones.
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/columns/article.php/2189871
Zones are not exactly what you ask, but are often used to provide
seperate secure and insecure wireless connections on a single wireless
router. Also, you might consider using a VPN for secure access to the
inside secure LAN.


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      11-13-2006, 02:38 PM
A few questions:

1) What type of AP?

2) What type of authentication?

3) What sort of authentication server on the backend?

Depending on the answers to these, I can come up with a solution pretty
easily.

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sozobon@gmail.com
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      11-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Thank you all for your help and input!

AdamO: Thanks for the DLINK suggestion. I'm waiting to hear back from
them.

Jeff: Thanks for the link on Sonicwall security zones. That sounds like
it may be a practical solution.

Christopher: Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I'm not sure if I want
to go backend server and APs, or a wireless router. I had planned on
using WEP on the router for authentication to the DMZ, and restrict
those users to WWW (port 80) only. I hope that answers your questions.

And for what it's worth, we're a non-profit institute with a small IT
staff (and budget).

Thanks again for the help,

B

 
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