2 network cards?

Hi all.
My friend has a network with 4 PC's connected all by cable. The guy who
fitted it (and 2 other techs) have been unable to get one PC to use the
internet (ADSL router) but it connects to the network fine. The cable has
been changed, the port(?) on the router changed and tried (in #1 then 2 etc
up to 4) and still no joy. Oh, the network card was also replaced.
Before this was installed, I used 2 x safecom USB wi-fi sticks and a proxy
program what worked fine.
Now the question is, would I be able to install these again and have the
network card just keep going for the networked programs and at the same time
connect with the wireless USB's for internet access?
Thanks,
James

On Mon, 2 May 2005 11:11:37 +0100, "JJ"
<just_for_5replace'5'with'five'@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>The cable has
>been changed, the port(?) on the router changed and tried (in #1 then 2 etc
>up to 4) and still no joy. Oh, the network card was also replaced.

sounds like several hardware solutions have been tried to fix a
software problem :-)

hard to say if your solution would fix it as you haven't isolated the
problem. What is the default gateway on the offending machine, how
does it compare to the others. Can it ping the gateway machine ? can
it ping an external IP address like 66.249.87.104 but won'tr ping
www.google.com ??

Phil
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"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 2 May 2005 11:11:37 +0100, "JJ"
> <just_for_5replace'5'with'five'@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >The cable has
> >been changed, the port(?) on the router changed and tried (in #1 then 2
etc
> >up to 4) and still no joy. Oh, the network card was also replaced.
>
> sounds like several hardware solutions have been tried to fix a
> software problem :-)
>
> hard to say if your solution would fix it as you haven't isolated the
> problem. What is the default gateway on the offending machine, how
> does it compare to the others. Can it ping the gateway machine ? can
> it ping an external IP address like 66.249.87.104 but won'tr ping
> www.google.com ??
>
> Phil

Hi Phil.
I'm rather poor with networking so didn't install the router.
I had 2 spare Safecom USB 11b's and installed them. Networked fine but no
internet access so I configured a program (proxyi?) that worked great for
internet access.
The guys who installed the ADSL router have 3 of the PC's with internet use
but not the 4th. You can ping the router but no internet address. The
network engineer gave up after 5 hours of installing, uninstalling etc.

Duh, I'm a clown. I can probably just install AnalogX Proxy and configure
the 4th PC with that. Why add another network problem?
Thanks anyway - next time I'm up my friend's I'll give it a try!
James

In article <4275fcec$0$56393$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"JJ" just_for_5replace'5'with'five'@yahoo.co.uk says...
> Hi all.
> My friend has a network with 4 PC's connected all by cable. The guy who
> fitted it (and 2 other techs) have been unable to get one PC to use the
> internet (ADSL router) but it connects to the network fine. The cable has
> been changed, the port(?) on the router changed and tried (in #1 then 2 etc
> up to 4) and still no joy. Oh, the network card was also replaced.
> Before this was installed, I used 2 x safecom USB wi-fi sticks and a proxy
> program what worked fine.
> Now the question is, would I be able to install these again and have the
> network card just keep going for the networked programs and at the same time
> connect with the wireless USB's for internet access?

Check the PC has the right settings for default gateway (the router)
and DNS (the router if it has a DNS relay, otherwise the standard DNS
servers for your ISP). Still no luck? Check that the router isn't
blocking the IP address of the PC - are you using DHCP? Check that
the router isn't filtering on MAC address.

"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <4275fcec$0$56393$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "JJ" just_for_5replace'5'with'five'@yahoo.co.uk says...
> > Hi all.
> > My friend has a network with 4 PC's connected all by cable. The guy who
> > fitted it (and 2 other techs) have been unable to get one PC to use the
> > internet (ADSL router) but it connects to the network fine. The cable
has
> > been changed, the port(?) on the router changed and tried (in #1 then 2
etc
> > up to 4) and still no joy. Oh, the network card was also replaced.
> > Before this was installed, I used 2 x safecom USB wi-fi sticks and a
proxy
> > program what worked fine.
> > Now the question is, would I be able to install these again and have the
> > network card just keep going for the networked programs and at the same
time
> > connect with the wireless USB's for internet access?
>
> Check the PC has the right settings for default gateway (the router)
> and DNS (the router if it has a DNS relay, otherwise the standard DNS
> servers for your ISP). Still no luck? Check that the router isn't
> blocking the IP address of the PC - are you using DHCP? Check that
> the router isn't filtering on MAC address.

I'll check them when I'm there next but I'd be surprised if they were setup
wrong. The Company that supplied the router were the ones to come and set it
up (at a cost of course) and they had the others working fine. The one thing
I found strange was they couldn't get it to work unless the main PC was set
to get the IP addy assigned from the router. If anything was static? (if I'm
right - my IP's are the same on each PC with my Belkin router) then nothing
worked.
I had a quick look last time and the settings were more or less the same
(except IP address for each machine). File sharing is perfect on all of them
though.

Anyway, thanks for the advice - I'll have a good look at them again.
James

> The guys who installed the ADSL router have 3 of the PC's with internet
> use but not the 4th. You can ping the router but no internet address. The
> network engineer gave up after 5 hours of installing, uninstalling etc.

Does'nt sound like much of an network engineeer.

Dave

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On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:49:36 +0100, "JJ"
<just_for_5replace'5'with'five'@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>If anything was static? (if I'm
>right - my IP's are the same on each PC with my Belkin router) then nothing
>worked.
static IP addressing is fine but only if you get the settings right.

>I had a quick look last time and the settings were more or less the same
>(except IP address for each machine). File sharing is perfect on all of them
>though.

they may have got that working with NetBEUI or something, having
screwed up the IP addressing, who knows.

Phil
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