2 computers cannot be on at same time

I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now all
of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when the
desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
everything I can think of and nothing works. When I use
the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
fine. Any body know what is going on?

Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway point
to the router

>-----Original Message-----
>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now all
>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when the
>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I use
>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>.
>

I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it said
media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
know my card works because I tried it at work. Any more
ideas?

thanks


>-----Original Message-----
>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
point
>to the router
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now
all
>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when
the
>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I use
>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>.
>>
>.
>

It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
check.

Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC and
IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
security/logs for any messages and check the usual things
(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).

Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and no
DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
you should get to the network driver, and it should list a
MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and MAC
address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x

>-----Original Message-----
>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it said
>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any more
>ideas?
>
>thanks
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>point
>>to the router
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now
>all
>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when
>the
>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I use
>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

I have checked all the setting..channels (even changed
channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I will
run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I never
heard that before. But all settings are ok.

thanks
>-----Original Message-----
>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
>check.
>
>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC
and
>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>security/logs for any messages and check the usual things
>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>
>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and no
>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
>you should get to the network driver, and it should list a
>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and MAC
>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it
said
>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any more
>>ideas?
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>>point
>>>to the router
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now
>>all
>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when
>>the
>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I
use
>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

MBNU = MS Broadband Network Utility that comes with the MS
wifi hardware. If you installed the CD, you should have on
the computer (on the startup group), unless you installed it.

You are running an MS router, right? MN100/500/700?

If you are not, the problem could be on the router -- maybe
it doesn't support NAT or it's not configured for NAT. You
would have to look at the manufacturer web site. If NAT
isn't supported, you would need to have two IP's from the
ISP (but is cheaper to just get a router with NAT, or just
use XP ICS)

>-----Original Message-----
>I have checked all the setting..channels (even changed
>channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I will
>run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I never
>heard that before. But all settings are ok.
>
>thanks
>>-----Original Message-----
>>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
>>check.
>>
>>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC
>and
>>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>>security/logs for any messages and check the usual things
>>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>>
>>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and no
>>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
>>you should get to the network driver, and it should list a
>>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and MAC
>>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it
>said
>>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any more
>>>ideas?
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>>>point
>>>>to the router
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop connected
>>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years. Now
>>>all
>>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet when
>>>the
>>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings, and
>>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I
>use
>>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything is
>>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Lilo thanks for sticking with me on this one. I reset the
basestation and setup new wirless card on laptop. My
desktop is perfect (internet,etc...) my laptop MBNU will
not let me use the base station management tool. It is
greyed out. But on the MBNU it says my ip address is:
0.0.0.0 it has nothing for the gateway address. This
help ya?
>-----Original Message-----
>MBNU = MS Broadband Network Utility that comes with the MS
>wifi hardware. If you installed the CD, you should have on
>the computer (on the startup group), unless you installed
it.
>
>You are running an MS router, right? MN100/500/700?
>
>If you are not, the problem could be on the router --
maybe
>it doesn't support NAT or it's not configured for NAT. You
>would have to look at the manufacturer web site. If NAT
>isn't supported, you would need to have two IP's from the
>ISP (but is cheaper to just get a router with NAT, or just
>use XP ICS)
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have checked all the setting..channels (even changed
>>channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I
will
>>run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I never
>>heard that before. But all settings are ok.
>>
>>thanks
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
>>>check.
>>>
>>>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC
>>and
>>>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>>>security/logs for any messages and check the usual
things
>>>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>>>
>>>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and
no
>>>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
>>>you should get to the network driver, and it should
list a
>>>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and
MAC
>>>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it
>>said
>>>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>>>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any
more
>>>>ideas?
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>>>>point
>>>>>to the router
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop
connected
>>>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years.
Now
>>>>all
>>>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet
when
>>>>the
>>>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings,
and
>>>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I
>>use
>>>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything
is
>>>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

That means it didn't pull an IP from the sweex. Do you have
an error log or something on the sweex?

You can always try assigning a static IP to the laptop...

>-----Original Message-----
>Lilo thanks for sticking with me on this one. I reset the
>basestation and setup new wirless card on laptop. My
>desktop is perfect (internet,etc...) my laptop MBNU will
>not let me use the base station management tool. It is
>greyed out. But on the MBNU it says my ip address is:
>0.0.0.0 it has nothing for the gateway address. This
>help ya?
>>-----Original Message-----
>>MBNU = MS Broadband Network Utility that comes with the MS
>>wifi hardware. If you installed the CD, you should have on
>>the computer (on the startup group), unless you installed
>it.
>>
>>You are running an MS router, right? MN100/500/700?
>>
>>If you are not, the problem could be on the router --
>maybe
>>it doesn't support NAT or it's not configured for NAT. You
>>would have to look at the manufacturer web site. If NAT
>>isn't supported, you would need to have two IP's from the
>>ISP (but is cheaper to just get a router with NAT, or just
>>use XP ICS)
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have checked all the setting..channels (even changed
>>>channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I
>will
>>>run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I never
>>>heard that before. But all settings are ok.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
>>>>check.
>>>>
>>>>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC
>>>and
>>>>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>>>>security/logs for any messages and check the usual
>things
>>>>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>>>>
>>>>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and
>no
>>>>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
>>>>you should get to the network driver, and it should
>list a
>>>>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and
>MAC
>>>>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>>>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it
>>>said
>>>>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>>>>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any
>more
>>>>>ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>>>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>>>>>point
>>>>>>to the router
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop
>connected
>>>>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years.
>Now
>>>>>all
>>>>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet
>when
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings,
>and
>>>>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I
>>>use
>>>>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything
>is
>>>>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Actually... change the MN500 back to router mode, then
disable the firewall and DHCP, and then put it back into
bridge mode. See if it works then

>-----Original Message-----
>That means it didn't pull an IP from the sweex. Do you have
>an error log or something on the sweex?
>
>You can always try assigning a static IP to the laptop...
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Lilo thanks for sticking with me on this one. I reset the
>>basestation and setup new wirless card on laptop. My
>>desktop is perfect (internet,etc...) my laptop MBNU will
>>not let me use the base station management tool. It is
>>greyed out. But on the MBNU it says my ip address is:
>>0.0.0.0 it has nothing for the gateway address. This
>>help ya?
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>MBNU = MS Broadband Network Utility that comes with the MS
>>>wifi hardware. If you installed the CD, you should have on
>>>the computer (on the startup group), unless you installed
>>it.
>>>
>>>You are running an MS router, right? MN100/500/700?
>>>
>>>If you are not, the problem could be on the router --
>>maybe
>>>it doesn't support NAT or it's not configured for NAT. You
>>>would have to look at the manufacturer web site. If NAT
>>>isn't supported, you would need to have two IP's from the
>>>ISP (but is cheaper to just get a router with NAT, or just
>>>use XP ICS)
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I have checked all the setting..channels (even changed
>>>>channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I
>>will
>>>>run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I never
>>>>heard that before. But all settings are ok.
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a virus
>>>>>check.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you MAC
>>>>and
>>>>>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>>>>>security/logs for any messages and check the usual
>>things
>>>>>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>>>>>
>>>>>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic and
>>no
>>>>>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog boxes
>>>>>you should get to the network driver, and it should
>>list a
>>>>>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP and
>>MAC
>>>>>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>>>>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and it
>>>>said
>>>>>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any anything. I
>>>>>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any
>>more
>>>>>>ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they have
>>>>>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and gaetway
>>>>>>point
>>>>>>>to the router
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop
>>connected
>>>>>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years.
>>Now
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet
>>when
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings,
>>and
>>>>>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works. When I
>>>>use
>>>>>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and everything
>>is
>>>>>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Guys thanks for all your help. I got so frustrated I beat
the laptop with a sledgehammer and now I have no
problems Just kidding, but I did get frustrated and
left the 2 computers on for several hours and when I came
back to check on the laptop, an ip address was assigned
automatically and everything works!

Thanks alot fellas


>-----Original Message-----
>Actually... change the MN500 back to router mode, then
>disable the firewall and DHCP, and then put it back into
>bridge mode. See if it works then
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>That means it didn't pull an IP from the sweex. Do you
have
>>an error log or something on the sweex?
>>
>>You can always try assigning a static IP to the laptop...
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Lilo thanks for sticking with me on this one. I reset
the
>>>basestation and setup new wirless card on laptop. My
>>>desktop is perfect (internet,etc...) my laptop MBNU
will
>>>not let me use the base station management tool. It is
>>>greyed out. But on the MBNU it says my ip address
is:
>>>0.0.0.0 it has nothing for the gateway address. This
>>>help ya?
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>MBNU = MS Broadband Network Utility that comes with
the MS
>>>>wifi hardware. If you installed the CD, you should
have on
>>>>the computer (on the startup group), unless you
installed
>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>You are running an MS router, right? MN100/500/700?
>>>>
>>>>If you are not, the problem could be on the router --
>>>maybe
>>>>it doesn't support NAT or it's not configured for NAT.
You
>>>>would have to look at the manufacturer web site. If NAT
>>>>isn't supported, you would need to have two IP's from
the
>>>>ISP (but is cheaper to just get a router with NAT, or
just
>>>>use XP ICS)
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I have checked all the setting..channels (even
changed
>>>>>channels), ssid, wep, etc....everything looks ok. I
>>>will
>>>>>run the MBNU if you can tell me how to do it. I
never
>>>>>heard that before. But all settings are ok.
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>It's probably a misconfiguration or viruses. Run a
virus
>>>>>>check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then run the MBNU on the laptop. It should show you
MAC
>>>>>and
>>>>>>IP's. If it doesn't connect look under the router's
>>>>>>security/logs for any messages and check the usual
>>>things
>>>>>>(same channel, SSID, WEP key on card and router).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then check the TCP/IP stack -- is it set to dynamic
and
>>>no
>>>>>>DNS/gateway assigned? If you go through the dialog
boxes
>>>>>>you should get to the network driver, and it should
>>>list a
>>>>>>MAC address. Each computer should have a unique IP
and
>>>MAC
>>>>>>address. The IP's should look like 192.168.2.x
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>I ran ipconfig on my desktop and it gave me the ip
>>>>>>>addresses....then I ran the ipconfig on laptop and
it
>>>>>said
>>>>>>>media disconnected. It didnt give me any
anything. I
>>>>>>>know my card works because I tried it at work. Any
>>>more
>>>>>>>ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>Run ipconfig on both computers. Check that they
have
>>>>>>>>different MAC addresses and IP's, and DNS and
gaetway
>>>>>>>point
>>>>>>>>to the router
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>I have a desktop wired to router and laptop
>>>connected
>>>>>>>>>wireless. It has been working fine for 2 years.
>>>Now
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>of a sudden, my laptop only works on the internet
>>>when
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>desktop is shut off. I checked all the settings,
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>everything I can think of and nothing works.
When I
>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>>the laptop at work, if finds signal and
everything
>>>is
>>>>>>>>>fine. Any body know what is going on?
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>